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Being Black in a Lecture...

PhantomWolf

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Another totally not racist incident....

So a black female student is in a lecture and has her feet up on the empty seat in front of her.

Does the Professor....

A) Ignore it.
B) Ask the student to take her feet off the chair.
C) Stop the lecture to demand that the student leave the lecture
D) Stop the lecture to yell racist obscenities at the student
E) Leave the lecture theatre and call the cops on the student.

If you picked "E" congratulations, you're a winner.

Of course we can be sure that this totally wasn't racism because the College says so, and of course any white student merely sitting there quietly with their feet on the chair in front of them would of course be removed from the lecture by the police... actually I guess they wouldn't. Hmmm.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...te-professor-cops_us_5beb9582e4b044bbb1aa1031
 
I'm sure it happened exactly like you said. Student puts feet on a chair and immediately the lecturer calls the cops.

PhantomWolf said:
Of course we can be sure that this totally wasn't racism because the College says so
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Er, no, the student herself said that:

"Because the student feels the faculty member’s actions were not based in racial bias, she has elected not to file a formal complaint of discrimination with EOS regarding the incident.”
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But no, that's not good enough. She's black, the teacher's white so it's racism and damn that black woman for not being a victim, she's letting down the side.
 
Huffington Post, manufacturing stories so skeptics can feign outrage since 2005.
 
PhantomWolf said:
Another totally not racist incident....

So a black female student is in a lecture and has her feet up on the empty seat in front of her.

Does the Professor....

A) Ignore it.
B) Ask the student to take her feet off the chair.
C) Stop the lecture to demand that the student leave the lecture
D) Stop the lecture to yell racist obscenities at the student
E) Leave the lecture theatre and call the cops on the student.

If you picked "E" congratulations, you're a winner.

Of course we can be sure that this totally wasn't racism because the College says so, and of course any white student merely sitting there quietly with their feet on the chair in front of them would of course be removed from the lecture by the police... actually I guess they wouldn't. Hmmm.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...te-professor-cops_us_5beb9582e4b044bbb1aa1031
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So the student herself said she thought it wasn't based on race, but you're certain it was based on your reading of a few tweets and a HuffPo article? Critical thinking fail.
 
PhantomWolf said:
Another totally not racist incident....

So a black female student is in a lecture and has her feet up on the empty seat in front of her.

Does the Professor....

A) Ignore it.
B) Ask the student to take her feet off the chair.
C) Stop the lecture to demand that the student leave the lecture
D) Stop the lecture to yell racist obscenities at the student
E) Leave the lecture theatre and call the cops on the student.

If you picked "E" congratulations, you're a winner.

Of course we can be sure that this totally wasn't racism because the College says so, and of course any white student merely sitting there quietly with their feet on the chair in front of them would of course be removed from the lecture by the police... actually I guess they wouldn't. Hmmm.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...te-professor-cops_us_5beb9582e4b044bbb1aa1031
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The woman in the video is drunk, (separate from the classroom incident).
 
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At some point cops need to start arresting the people that needlessly call the police.
 
It is obvious not a race thing if even the girl in question felt it wasn't.

Stupid as lecturer though should be fined for completely wasting the police's time

Side point.

Have no idea why they have put a random video of some dumb as, racist, off her face on who knows what, ranting, weirdo chick.

Unless that is supposed to get every ones outrage started before reading the boring class story
 
ABC's take on it:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-col...hite-lecturer-called-police/story?id=59189193
Another student from the biology class told ABC News the incident apparently stemmed from a run-in the classmate had with the lecturer on Friday.

"The girl who was escorted out had her feet up on a chair in front of her, there was no one around her and she wasn't disturbing anyone," the student, who asked not to be identified, told ABC News.

"However, the professor went up to her and told her to please place her feet down and she did. A few minutes later [the student] had her feet in her own chair now, so the professor once again went up to her and told her to stop and she did. A few minutes before class ended [the] professor gave a speech about civility and told us that we were the most disruptive class and we never paid attention."

On Monday, the lecturer began the class by handing out a paper on civility and walked up to the African-American student she had scolded before about having her feet on a seat and spoke to her prior to calling the university police, the student told ABC News. She said her African-American classmate didn't have her feet on the seat Monday before police were summoned, but had just walked in and sat down.
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kellyb said:
ABC's take on it:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-col...hite-lecturer-called-police/story?id=59189193
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The report sounds like a bad blood spat between the teacher and the student. Could've just as easily been a white greaser of the Rebel Without a Cause model.

But something is decidedly wrong with the story. One tweet and the ABC follow up story report that the police showed up the next day and ordered her out. The narrative in the original story is confusing.

Not in the original story was the bit about the girl and the professor having some kind of run-in prior to the lounging/rudeness issue.

Also a lot of hearsay. Are there really two? three? four? incidents? One of the students says that the teacher showed up one class with a handout on civility and specifically walked it over to the perp. Which day was this? What was the previous dispute about? Was this the same day, then, as they lounging infraction? Or was that on yet another day? And then the lounging infraction day is the day before (or class day before if they don't have that course every day) the cops showed up and stopped her from entering.

Sounds like a faculty member who lost control of her class and subsequently her temper. You don't just call the cops on Monday and they respond on Tuesday or Wednesday. They responded and you made arrangements to have them there the next time the class met.

I'm betting it was Sarah Huckabee S. doing a guest lecturing gig. We all know how important decorum is in the current administration. Jim Acosta better watch himself!

Seriously,... it sounds personal rather than racial.
 
Foolmewunz said:
The report sounds like a bad blood spat between the teacher and the student. Could've just as easily been a white greaser of the Rebel Without a Cause model.

But something is decidedly wrong with the story. One tweet and the ABC follow up story report that the police showed up the next day and ordered her out. The narrative in the original story is confusing.

Not in the original story was the bit about the girl and the professor having some kind of run-in prior to the lounging/rudeness issue.

Also a lot of hearsay. Are there really two? three? four? incidents? One of the students says that the teacher showed up one class with a handout on civility and specifically walked it over to the perp. Which day was this? What was the previous dispute about? Was this the same day, then, as they lounging infraction? Or was that on yet another day? And then the lounging infraction day is the day before (or class day before if they don't have that course every day) the cops showed up and stopped her from entering.

Sounds like a faculty member who lost control of her class and subsequently her temper. You don't just call the cops on Monday and they respond on Tuesday or Wednesday. They responded and you made arrangements to have them there the next time the class met.

I'm betting it was Sarah Huckabee S. doing a guest lecturing gig. We all know how important decorum is in the current administration. Jim Acosta better watch himself!

Seriously,... it sounds personal rather than racial.
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Something about the story is giving me the impression that the instructor is/was having some sort of personal mental breakdown.

It's a weird story for sure.

Seems like the school is being very CYA and tight-lipped about what the deal is, too.
 
kellyb said:
Something about the story is giving me the impression that the instructor is/was having some sort of personal mental breakdown.
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Yeah that professor has a tremendous bug up their rectum. Sounds like one of those teachers that feels personally disrespected unless everyone is seated with perfect posture, hands folded neatly on the center of the desk in front of them.
 
sir drinks-a-lot said:
OMG! You're defending a racist. I hope you know that makes you literally a Nazi.
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No, that makes me sane. You should try it sometime. Next time some bigot makes it obvious that they are a bigot, try not leaping to their defense just because you support the party where those bigots have found a friendly harbor.
 
p0lka said:
I agree.
EDIT: surely in the US there is a wasting police time charge of some such? why aren't they using that. Because that's a complete waste of police time.
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Yes there is. They "aren't using that" because most universities in the US have campus police. Campus police rarely have any crimes to deal with so they are called get involved in quarrels such as this one. I'm shocked the Huffington Post didn't clarify this for its unbiased, skeptical, defintely-not-racist, non-Americans readers.

ATTN all non-Americans: We get it. You want us to know how outraged you are over some perceived act of "racism." The more outraged you are the more "not racist" you are and that makes you a wonderful person. You can stop now.
 
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This is definitely one of those stories where we don't know what is really happening. I suspect that the prof has other things going on in her life and that's why she snapped at something so apparently minor, and that the student was advised of the other things and decided it was just a case of poor classroom management rather than racism.

I will say that I spent a lot of my college lectures demonstrating poor posture and little respect for the furnishings around me.
 
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