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Azaria Chamberlain case solved?

This man sounds like a pathetic publicity seeker.


It's absurd to think that 3 men would worry about being held responsible for shooting a dingo that they think it's just smarter to keep mum & then tote the lifeless body all the way to Melbourne so they can bury it in a BACKYARD?

It sounds like :bs:
 
Mel said:
This man sounds like a pathetic publicity seeker.


It's absurd to think that 3 men would worry about being held responsible for shooting a dingo that they think it's just smarter to keep mum & then tote the lifeless body all the way to Melbourne so they can bury it in a BACKYARD?

It sounds like :bs:
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I admit, his story sounds as odd as the rest of it, but if true, 1) it would certainly explain a lot of things, and 2) couldn't he be charged with all kinds of crimes? Kind of a dubious fame wouldn't you say? It's not like he's setting himself up to be some kind of hero or something. And movies have already been made and books written, so what's left for this guy to cash in on?

It had me wondering this: What if his story is partially true, and the bullet hit not only the dingo, but the baby as well (or maybe it hit just the baby and the dingo dropped it and ran off)? Sure the baby would have already been dead, but those guys might not have known that, and if they saw a bullet wound in the baby, that might have made them want to cover the whole thing up. I'm not trying to argue that this is the case (it still sounds unlikely), but it occured to me when I read the story.
 
Psi Baba said:

I admit, his story sounds as odd as the rest of it, but if true, 1) it would certainly explain a lot of things, and 2) couldn't he be charged with all kinds of crimes? Kind of a dubious fame wouldn't you say? It's not like he's setting himself up to be some kind of hero or something. And movies have already been made and books written, so what's left for this guy to cash in on?

It had me wondering this: What if his story is partially true, and the bullet hit not only the dingo, but the baby as well (or maybe it hit just the baby and the dingo dropped it and ran off)? Sure the baby would have already been dead, but those guys might not have known that, and if they saw a bullet wound in the baby, that might have made them want to cover the whole thing up. I'm not trying to argue that this is the case (it still sounds unlikely), but it occured to me when I read the story.
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This man is now 78 years old maybe he has a neurological disease or maybe he's just after the 'easy' money?


IMO, the idea that 3 men would handle (start to cut off the baby's clothes & then decide to unbutton instead? Huh?) & then tote a dead infant back to 'civilization' in order to EVADE discovery of their misdeeds just doesn't make any sense. No sense at all.
 
It is BS. He didn't even have the type of buttons on AC's baby-suit right (he called button-and-hole, suit actually had snap-studs).

Coincidentally, a TV station out here is just about to release a mini-series on the case. Hmm...
 
This doesn't seem credible. Imagine toting a dead baby thousands of kilometres in the heat. Imagine the smell. It would have been in a pretty aweful statem of decomposition after a few days drive and that's what it is to Melbourne
 
Drooper said:
This doesn't seem credible. Imagine toting a dead baby thousands of kilometres in the heat. Imagine the smell. It would have been in a pretty aweful statem of decomposition after a few days drive and that's what it is to Melbourne
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He was hunting in the area, he probably planned to bring the meat home somehow. That isn't what makes it dumb. What makes it dumb is the idea of burying something in Melbourne, a large city with nosy people, when you can just bury the body in the middle of the damned desert.

And anyway, who'd cover up a possible murder/human death over a firearm infringement?

(Hey, this could be one for Dicky G! Gun laws lead to miscarriage of justice!)
 
You're both probably right. There are a lot of problems with this guy's story. It's a very intersting case, though. I'm curious as to what other forum members think of the whole case in general, especially our Australian friends--Zep, Fool, AUP?
 
Psi Baba said:
You're both probably right. There are a lot of problems with this guy's story. It's a very intersting case, though. I'm curious as to what other forum members think of the whole case in general, especially our Australian friends--Zep, Fool, AUP?
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Uh... You do know I'm Australian, right?
 
Mr Manifesto said:


Uh... You do know I'm Australian, right?
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Ooh this is so awkward, you see Psi Baba said Australian friends and...well I think you get the picture.
 
Mr Manifesto said:


He was hunting in the area, he probably planned to bring the meat home somehow. That isn't what makes it dumb. What makes it dumb is the idea of burying something in Melbourne, a large city with nosy people, when you can just bury the body in the middle of the damned desert.

And anyway, who'd cover up a possible murder/human death over a firearm infringement?

(Hey, this could be one for Dicky G! Gun laws lead to miscarriage of justice!)
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So they drove from Alice Springs to Melbourne with a corpse in the car? I sure hope they had an esky.

The story is also inconsistent with the forensic evidence (the CREDIBLE forensic evidence which led to Lindy Chamberlain's release from prison, not the dodgy forensic evidence on which she was convicted).

I'm inclined to agree that this is someone seeking their 15 minutes of fame and some financial benefit before they check out of this life.
 
Sounded like grade-A BS right from the start, although the tabloid media were all over it from the start:

1. So they shot a dingo (about the size of a skinny labrador) and only noticed it was carrying a baby (about 1/3 the size of the dog) in its mouth AFTERWARDS? Did the dingo have it hidden in the side of its mouth like a chipmunk?

2. Didn't report the finding of a dead child for fear of a serious firearms conviction? In the Northern Territory in the 1970's? They had no such laws then - I know, I lived there.

3. Didn't report the finding of a dead child within days of the Azaria Chamberlain disappearance, which was a HUMUNGOUS news item, and they were in the very same area? How NOT to be a national hero, or at least a 15-min celebrity?

4. As Mr M said, they took it back to Melbourne to bury it? In a back yard? This would be like smuggling a dead body from Grand Canyon by car to hide it in Central Park, New York. How nuts does that sound, but it's easy to [dis]prove - go dig up the remains now.


Won't go on - the words "completely delusional nutbag" spring to mind...
 
Grammatron said:


Ooh this is so awkward, you see Psi Baba said Australian friends and...well I think you get the picture.
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you bitch:D

I'll Have you know that Manifesto is a bright friendly guy, considering the heavy industrial toxic wasteland he grew up in ;)


Anyway, back to the baby/dingo thing.....I DON'T CARE. That is all I have to add....To understand this response you probably had to live through the whole thing....
 
Just when you think this story is over and finished, it rises up again like a monster from the deep.

I never thougt she was guilty in the first place, then the 'forensic' evidence turned out to be due to utter incompetence. Now this. Someone is just having us on, for their own amusement.

But then, this whole case has been so crazy from the start, that it just might turn out to be true. Not that I think it will, but if it did, I wouldn't be surprised either, if that makes any sense.

If anyone should come out of this stinking to high heaven again, it should be the Australian media. They think they can't lose, either way. From where I sit, they have once again shown just how lacking in morals they are.
 
So what did they do with the dead dingo? Remember at the time that both dingoes and the body of a baby were being searched for. No shot was found, and if they'd buried the dingo the burial spot would certainly have attracted attention.

And anyone who confuses a dingo with a rabbit most certainly shouldn't be in possession of a firearm.
 
reprise said:
So what did they do with the dead dingo? Remember at the time that both dingoes and the body of a baby were being searched for. No shot was found, and if they'd buried the dingo the burial spot would certainly have attracted attention.

And anyone who confuses a dingo with a rabbit most certainly shouldn't be in possession of a firearm.
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The whole area around the rock is a flat featureless scrubby rocky plain....I think you could probably dump a thousand bodies out there and search for a year and never find it... The only reason they found the clothes is whoever dumped them dumped them right up on the edge of the monolith where people tend to be..

Remember the crap about the babies name "Azaria" meaning "sacrifice in the desert"? remember all the major news services parroting that one? sheer mob frenzy incompetent news reporting because the parents were members of a non mainstream xtian sect. If this case showed one thing it showed the potential for bigotry in the general community. I still know people, including my late Father who cannot be convinced that the baby was not killed in some wierd cult ceremony...

In another sad note many many Dingoes were shot because Australians cannot accept that if you go into dingo country you may get bitten by a dingo and you should not leave babies unattended in an open ground level tent... Could you imagine Americans being happy to see Bears shot out of a national park because one killed a baby?

should have culled the stupid tourists not the native fauna.
 
The only effect I've seen is lots of reports on lousy current affairs shows that I don't watch... and a History teacher who uses my video recorder in my class has dug out his copy of "Evil Angels" to prompt debate on national issues. Yawn. I see Zep's point totally.
 
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