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Astrological fun and games

Marrena

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Okay, I've got some free time, anybody up for an astrology reading? I'll try not to be too bogus. I need birthdate (including year), time and location. Can be you or anybody you know well. I believe this stuff works, let me put it to the test with people who aren't gullible.
 
Marrena said:
Okay, I've got some free time, anybody up for an astrology reading? I'll try not to be too bogus. I need birthdate (including year), time and location. Can be you or anybody you know well. I believe this stuff works, let me put it to the test with people who aren't gullible.
October 10, 1952. Birmingham, Alabama.
 
Cool! I'll get cracking.

Except I do need the exact time of birth. And gender would be helpful.

I'll do the first chart assuming an exact birth time of 1:00 pm, won't be that off give or take ten minutes (has to do with the house system).
 
Oh man, this does sound like a cold reading considering the context of the board. Of course anyone regular here is going to be highly educated. Maybe better if I did the chart of friends.

Anyhow, Ashles your chart (I'm assuming it's your chart) is pretty straightforward which is actually on the unusual side. So Sun, Moon, rising sign apply. You've got your Sun in the ninth house, the house of higher education, philosophy and travel. Damn, even that sounds like a cold reading because travel could be deduced from the birthplace. Okay, ignoring travel, certainly that's a person who is college educated, and probably something philosophical or idea or art based rather than engineering. Libra is the sign of ideas and beauty. Excellent chart for a professor, especially with Mercury, the planet of communication so close to the midheaven, point of fame and career success (also in Libra). Not quite a conjunction, but almost. Silver-tongued would apply to this person. People listen when you speak. If you aren't a professor, you should be.

Not to get too personal, but you've got four planets in your eighth house too. That's the house of other people's money, life, death and regeneration, but it's basically the house of sex. Having Pluto the planet of sex, conjuncting Jupiter, the lucky planet in your 8th house has got to be good. You've also got Mars, the planet of ambition, aggression and sex drive there, along with Uranus, planet of the freaky and unusual. They're all in Virgo, which is the most virginal zodiac sign which should make for an interesting combination, I'm guessing could produce pretty strong neurotic tendencies. You've also got an extremely tight quincunx between Jupiter and your Aries (dominant) Saturn, only two minutes. That's the angle of obsession. BTW Saturn is in your third house, house of communication--could mean an obsession with talking about sex.

Not only that, you have Venus and Neptune in Scorpio in your house of career. Scorpio is the sign of sex and uncovering secrets. Actually would also be good for a professor involved with research. Also a good chart for a writer, especially a fiction writer.

Your chart ruler is Saturn because you are Capricorn rising. Capricorn rising is the way you appear to others and how you deal with them. Well here is not a cold reading, you are one of the posters friendly to believers, but Capricorn is the most skeptical and pragmatic of signs. Career comes easy to you. People perceive you as practical, competent and no-nonsense. Your Taurus moon is also an earth sign, adding to the practical nature. Your moods are stable (aside from sexual interest) and you are loyal in love.

With Saturn as your chart ruler, the most important thinig to you is dominance in communication

Sorry, this chart reading is an awkward one to respond to. Maybe someone else's, your chart was a little unusual in that respect.
 
Marenna, thank you for the reading.

I will probably get fired if I don't actually do some work now, but I will give you a full breakdown of accuracy later on.

Cheers,

Ash.
 
Tricky, I took a look at your chart to see if anything obvious stood out, even without the birthtime. It's a lot murkier with no house system, but sometimes you can say basic things. You've got a Jupiter singleton which generally brings good luck, but it's offset by a loose T-square in your chart, configuration of struggle. So can't say anything definite without birthtime.

Although again, zero planets in Pisces.

Pretty sure no skeptic is going to have Pisces rising. That I can tell from birth time.
 
Some advice: your cold readings would sound much more convincing if you didn't make comments like 'Damn, that sounds like a cold reading'. :D
 
Marrena said:
Tricky, I took a look at your chart to see if anything obvious stood out, even without the birthtime. It's a lot murkier with no house system, but sometimes you can say basic things. You've got a Jupiter singleton which generally brings good luck, but it's offset by a loose T-square in your chart, configuration of struggle. So can't say anything definite without birthtime.

Although again, zero planets in Pisces.

Pretty sure no skeptic is going to have Pisces rising. That I can tell from birth time.

Tricky has a loose T- square? Sounds nasty! Can it be fixed by surgery or does it simply require him to look after his tools? :D

And I'm still not sure whether the claim that Ashles has a tight quincunx needs to be reported for obscenity... :D
 
Saturday, April 20, 1889 6:30:00 PM
Branua am Inn, Austria
Time Zone: -00:52:08 (LT)
Longitude: 013° E 02'
Latitude: 48° N 15'
 
Meaty Curtains, you, on the other hand, have something screaming and obvious. You have yod. I have a yod too, also known as the finger of God. I can tell you which finger it is.

A yod can manifest one of three ways. It's the configuration of obsession, involving two quincunxes and a sextile. In the same way that a grand trine, configuration of three lucky trines is an extremely lucky configuration (good for casino going, magicians and con games), a yod is the configuration of unceasing obsession. Unfortunately, at heart the yod is absolutely unpredictable, so I can't tell how it manifests in your life, but it's there, sometimes planet and sign placement give a hint. No way I could predict but if I tell you where it falls you certainly can. God this does sound like a cold reading.

It may show as a creative obsession, a neurotic obsession, or if not allowed any vent, chronic illness. I have come across three people with yods who have Lyme disease. The chronic illness is not one that necessarily needs hospitalization, but it is lifelong.

However it manifests, this configuration gives a problem with getting through daily life. The obsession takes hold and you forget about paying bills, etc. Hard to hold a regular job, very moody.

Yours is pretty tight. It involves your Moon, so it certainly involves your emotions, however it manifests. Moon in Gemini, sign of communication, Pluto in Scorpio, sex planet in sex sign, and Neptune in Capricorn, planet of illusion, drug use and music in the most stolid and ambitious sign. Have no idea what that means, but I'm sure you do. Eat my hat if I'm wrong on that.

Again, sounds like a cold reading but this person is not someone who's a model employee, especially with sun in Pisces.

Just curious, you a skeptic with sun in Pisces? Stay away from drugs young man, with that chart.
 
Pragmatist said:

And I'm still not sure whether the claim that Ashles has a tight quincunx needs to be reported for obscenity... :D

Neither am I, the way it falls in his 8th house.

Word on astrology--anyone who says definitively that astrology predicts the future is full of baloney, at least from an astrological point of view. Same natal chart will produce a surgeon or a serial killer, depending on life choices and environment. But the chart will rule out bookkeeper.

T-square isn't necessarily bad--Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Marilyn Monroe and Oprah all have one. Means difficult life with struggle, doesn't mean you can't be successful.

Getting going on the rest.
 
Marrena,

This is not a very good way to test. Too much is left to interpretation. A better test would involve something like matching up birth date/time/location with horoscope.

If you had a group of people fill out questionnaires about the kind of personality traits, careers and experiences you would expect to learn from a horoscope and then had the same group submit their birth date/time/location anonymously you could try to cast horoscopes for the birth data and then see how many you could match up.

Of course there would still be some interpretation involved on your part but the results would be decided strictly on percentage of successful matches. I'm not very good at statistics but perhaps someone else here could help figure out what would constitute a significant hit rate.

On another angle... have you ever tried to figure out how astrology could actually work? Why the positions of heavenly bodies should have any effect on your life related to when and where you were born? What's so important about the moment of birth?

Here's a mystery that's always bothered me about astrology. The fact that a particular celestial object was in a particular house at the moment of one person's birth says nothing about how far away that object was at the time. It could very well have been in the same house for any number of other people but been at vastly different distances for each of them. When I have asked about this I have been told that distance doesn't matter. Similarly it seems that size, or mass, doesn't matter, either. My question is: why should a handfull of planets have any influence when there is some object of some mass in any and every direction you could possibly point?
 
Ok, I'll try one

1:15 PM EST Dec 12 1992, female.
 
Gastric reflux, I'm going to give yours a miss because the Sun is right on the cusp of Aries and Taurus, and I suck at cusp readings. Interesting chart though, that person also has Venus conjuncting Mars--must have had a unique insight on gender differences. Also assuming quite passionate with that blending of male and female with both the Sun sign and Mars/Venus conjunction.
 
Marrena said:
Tricky, I took a look at your chart to see if anything obvious stood out, even without the birthtime. It's a lot murkier with no house system, but sometimes you can say basic things. You've got a Jupiter singleton which generally brings good luck, but it's offset by a loose T-square in your chart, configuration of struggle. So can't say anything definite without birthtime.

Although again, zero planets in Pisces.

Pretty sure no skeptic is going to have Pisces rising. That I can tell from birth time.
Gender is Male.

3 AM is the birthtime. But most astrologists agree that this is the least influential of the effects, since it can vary depending on whether or not your area used DST or not.

You should be able to make some very specific comments even without this time.

Just out of interest, what would be the difference if I were born at 3PM instead of 3AM?
 

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