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Artificial Life By Intelligent Design!

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Artificial Life By Intelligent Design!

by Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)*

Recent news reports suggest that scientists may be close to creating artificial (synthetic) life. None of this is happening by chance but by intelligent design and planning. Why, then, will many not give credit to God for the original DNA and life?

In the case involving synthetic (artificial) life, scientists don't actually create or produce life itself from non-living matter. What scientists do in this case is create (by intelligent design) artificial DNA (genetic instructions and code) which is then implanted into an already existing living cell and, thereby, changing that cell into a new form of life.

Even if scientists ever do create a whole living cell from scratch (and not just its DNA) it still would not be by chance but by intelligent design. Synthetic life is another form of genetic engineering. But God was there first! Remember that.

In all forms of genetic engineering, including production of synthetic or artificial life, scientists have always begun with already existing forms of life or their parts. Contrary to popular belief no scientist has ever created an entire living cell from "scratch" or from non-living matter. But, if that day ever comes it won't be by chance but only by intelligent design further supporting the argument that intelligent design was necessary for life's origin on Earth.

If the cell had evolved it would have had to be all at once. A partially evolved cell cannot wait millions of years to become complete because it would be highly unstable and quickly disintegrate in the open environment, especially without the protection of a complete and fully functioning cell membrane.

Although it has been shown that the basic building blocks of life, amino acids, can come into existence by chance, it has never been shown that the various amino acids can come together into a sequence by chance to form protein molecules. If the amino acids are not in the proper sequence the protein molecules will not function! Even the simplest cell is composed of millions of protein molecules.

It seems that the cell is irreducibly complex. For example, without DNA there can be no RNA, and without RNA there can be no DNA. And without either DNA or RNA there can be no proteins, and without proteins there can be no DNA or RNA. They're all mutually dependent upon each other for existence! It could not have gradually evolved! Evolutionists generally believe that it took one billion years for the first life form or cell to have evolved. That belief, although still taught as gospel in many elementary and secondary schools, cannot be sustained by modern science.

Of course, once there is a complete and living cell then the genetic program and biological mechanisms exist to direct the formation of more cells with their own genetic programs and biological mechanisms. The question is how did life come about on Earth when there was no directing mechanism.

If humans must use intelligence to perform genetic engineering, to meaningfully manipulate the genetic code, then what does that say about the origin of the genetic code itself!

The great British scientist Sir Frederick Hoyle has said that the probability of the sequence of molecules in the simplest cell coming into existence by chance is equivalent to a tornado going through a junk yard of airplane parts and assembling a 747 Jumbo Jet!

We tend to judge something as being simple or complex by its size. So many of us assume that because the cell is microscopic in size that it must be simple. Not so! Size is relative, but not complexity. If you were as big as the Empire State building you would probably think that the tiny cars and automobiles on the street were simple and could easily happen by a chance combination of parts. However, we know that is not so.

Natural laws are adequate to explain how the order in life, the universe, and even a microwave oven operates, but mere undirected natural laws cannot fully explain the origin of such order.

Science cannot prove how life originated since no human observed the origin of life by either chance or design. Observation and detection by the human senses, either directly or indirectly through scientific instruments, is the basis of science and for establishing proof. The issue is which position has better scientific support. Both sides should have the opportunity to present their case.

If some astronauts from Earth discovered figures of persons similar to Mt. Rushmore on an uninhabited planet there would be no way to scientifically prove the carved figures originated by design or by chance processes of erosion. Neither position is science, but scientific arguments may be made to support one or the other.

Many think that natural selection in nature is proof that we had evolved. Natural selection does occur in nature. However, natural selection itself does not produce biological variations. Natural selection can only work with biological variations that are possible and which have survival value. It is a passive process in nature. Natural selection is simply another way of saying that if a biological variation occurs which is helpful to an animal or plant's survival then that that variation will be preserved and be passed on. Of course, nature does not do any active or conscious selecting. The term "natural selection" is simply a figure of speech. Also, natural selection only applies once there is life and not before. In other words, natural selection is not involved in any pre-biotic, non-living interactions of chemicals.

Evolutionists believe that random or chance mutations in the genetic code (caused by random environmental forces such as radiation) will produce the favorable evolutionary changes necessary for natural selection to act upon.

However, there is no evidence that random or chance mutations in the genetic code are capable of producing greater biological complexity (vertical evolution) among natural species. Mutations are only capable of producing horizontal evolution (variations within natural species). In any case, most biological variations among natural species are due to new combinations of already existing genes and not mutations.

Considering the enormous complexity of life, it is much more logical to believe that the genetic and biological similarities between all species are due to a common Designer rather than common evolutionary ancestry. It is only logical that the great Designer would design similar functions for similar purposes and different functions for different purposes in all of the various forms of life.

What if we should find evidence of life on Mars? Wouldn't that prove evolution? No. It wouldn't be proof that such life had evolved from non-living matter by chance natural processes. And even if we did find evidence of life on Mars it would have most likely have come from our very own planet - Earth! In the Earth's past there was powerful volcanic activity which could have easily spewed dirt containing microbes into outer space which eventually could have reached Mars. A Newsweek article of September 21, 1998, p.12 mentions exactly this possibility.

We know from the law of entropy in science that the universe does not have the ability to have sustained itself from all eternity. It requires a beginning. But, we also know from science that natural laws could not have brought the universe into being from nothing. The beginning of the universe, therefore, points to a supernatural origin!

All of this simply means that real science supports faith in God. Science cannot prove that we are here by chance (evolution) or by design (creation). However, the scientific evidence can be used to support one or the other. It is only fair that evidence supporting intelligent design be presented to students alongside of evolutionary theory, especially in public schools which receive funding from taxpayers who are on both sides of the issue. Also, no one is being forced to believe in God or adopt a particular religion so there is no true violation of separation of church and state.

As a religion and science writer, I encourage all to read my Internet article "The Natural Limits of Evolution" at my website (just google my name).

*The author, Babu G. Ranganathan, is an experienced Christian writer. Mr. Ranganathan has his B.A. with academic concentrations in Bible and Biology from Bob Jones University. As a religion and science writer he has been recognized in the 24th edition of Marquis Who's Who In The East. The author's articles have been published in various publications including Russia's Pravda and South Korea's The Seoul Times.
 
Even if I were to admit that ID is possible, I can not accept that said creator is YHWH. The bible is too full of inaccuracies and I can not see how any creator could concieve of the idea of creating his creations knowing they will burn in hell forever.

The reason I state this, is because I notice that the author is a Christian and this is what it really is all about. This isn't meant as a knock to him, just simply how I see it.
 
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Artificial Life By Intelligent Design!

by Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)*

See above.

Recent news reports suggest that scientists may be close to creating artificial (synthetic) life. None of this is happening by chance but by intelligent design and planning. Why, then, will many not give credit to God for the original DNA and life?

Our ability to do it does not mean it was originally created so.

In the case involving synthetic (artificial) life, scientists don't actually create or produce life itself from non-living matter. What scientists do in this case is create (by intelligent design) artificial DNA (genetic instructions and code) which is then implanted into an already existing living cell and, thereby, changing that cell into a new form of life.

Define "synthetic life", and explain how it is different from "natural life". Please explain what you mean by "artificial DNA".

Even if scientists ever do create a whole living cell from scratch (and not just its DNA) it still would not be by chance but by intelligent design. Synthetic life is another form of genetic engineering. But God was there first! Remember that.

Why remember it if you have no evidence? There is no point in postulating a god if there is no evidence for one. Please look up the principle of parsimony.

In all forms of genetic engineering, including production of synthetic or artificial life, scientists have always begun with already existing forms of life or their parts. Contrary to popular belief no scientist has ever created an entire living cell from "scratch" or from non-living matter.

"Popular belief"? Who believes scientists have?

But, if that day ever comes it won't be by chance but only by intelligent design further supporting the argument that intelligent design was necessary for life's origin on Earth.

Your reasoning is fallicious. If scientists create life from non-life, this only means that it is possible, not that it had to happen that way.

If the cell had evolved it would have had to be all at once. A partially evolved cell cannot wait millions of years to become complete because it would be highly unstable and quickly disintegrate in the open environment, especially without the protection of a complete and fully functioning cell membrane.

This is not true, and there is no reason to believe that an entire cell must exist for there to be a benefit to a replicating molecule.

Although it has been shown that the basic building blocks of life, amino acids, can come into existence by chance, it has never been shown that the various amino acids can come together into a sequence by chance to form protein molecules. If the amino acids are not in the proper sequence the protein molecules will not function! Even the simplest cell is composed of millions of protein molecules.

See above. The proteins we see in a cell today are by no means the simplest possible proteins. An entire working cell is not required to produce a benefit to a replicating molecule.

It seems that the cell is irreducibly complex. For example, without DNA there can be no RNA, and without RNA there can be no DNA.

Wrong.

And without either DNA or RNA there can be no proteins, and without proteins there can be no DNA or RNA.

Definately wrong.

They're all mutually dependent upon each other for existence! It could not have gradually evolved! Evolutionists generally believe that it took one billion years for the first life form or cell to have evolved. That belief, although still taught as gospel in many elementary and secondary schools, cannot be sustained by modern science.

Actually, it is strongly supported by modern science.

Also, you are beginning to equate abiogenesis with evolution. The two are completely different.

Of course, once there is a complete and living cell then the genetic program and biological mechanisms exist to direct the formation of more cells with their own genetic programs and biological mechanisms. The question is how did life come about on Earth when there was no directing mechanism.

Abiogenesis.

If humans must use intelligence to perform genetic engineering, to meaningfully manipulate the genetic code, then what does that say about the origin of the genetic code itself!

Nothing. It simply means that it is possible to do so.

The great British scientist Sir Frederick Hoyle has said that the probability of the sequence of molecules in the simplest cell coming into existence by chance is equivalent to a tornado going through a junk yard of airplane parts and assembling a 747 Jumbo Jet!

False dichotomy. A complete cell is not required for a simple replicating molecule.

We tend to judge something as being simple or complex by its size. So many of us assume that because the cell is microscopic in size that it must be simple. Not so! Size is relative, but not complexity. If you were as big as the Empire State building you would probably think that the tiny cars and automobiles on the street were simple and could easily happen by a chance combination of parts. However, we know that is not so.

Natural laws are adequate to explain how the order in life, the universe, and even a microwave oven operates, but mere undirected natural laws cannot fully explain the origin of such order.

No, you are quite right. The answer to some of these questions currently is "we do not know".

Note that not knowing != goddidit.

Science cannot prove how life originated since no human observed the origin of life by either chance or design. Observation and detection by the human senses, either directly or indirectly through scientific instruments, is the basis of science and for establishing proof. The issue is which position has better scientific support. Both sides should have the opportunity to present their case.

Nothing is ever "proven" in science. Only strongly, statistically, supported by evidence.

If some astronauts from Earth discovered figures of persons similar to Mt. Rushmore on an uninhabited planet there would be no way to scientifically prove the carved figures originated by design or by chance processes of erosion. Neither position is science, but scientific arguments may be made to support one or the other.

Erm... what?

Many think that natural selection in nature is proof that we had evolved. Natural selection does occur in nature. However, natural selection itself does not produce biological variations. Natural selection can only work with biological variations that are possible and which have survival value. It is a passive process in nature. Natural selection is simply another way of saying that if a biological variation occurs which is helpful to an animal or plant's survival then that that variation will be preserved and be passed on. Of course, nature does not do any active or conscious selecting. The term "natural selection" is simply a figure of speech. Also, natural selection only applies once there is life and not before. In other words, natural selection is not involved in any pre-biotic, non-living interactions of chemicals.

Of course biological natural selection does not occur when you do not have life.

Also, your description of natural selection is pretty poor. And it definately is selection, in the same way a filter selects a particular sized molecule.

Evolutionists believe that random or chance mutations in the genetic code (caused by random environmental forces such as radiation) will produce the favorable evolutionary changes necessary for natural selection to act upon.

However, there is no evidence that random or chance mutations in the genetic code are capable of producing greater biological complexity (vertical evolution) among natural species. Mutations are only capable of producing horizontal evolution (variations within natural species). In any case, most biological variations among natural species are due to new combinations of already existing genes and not mutations.

Firstly, define "species".

Secondly, wrong.

Considering the enormous complexity of life, it is much more logical to believe that the genetic and biological similarities between all species are due to a common Designer rather than common evolutionary ancestry. It is only logical that the great Designer would design similar functions for similar purposes and different functions for different purposes in all of the various forms of life.

Appeal to ignorance. Just because we can't understand it, goddidit?

What if we should find evidence of life on Mars? Wouldn't that prove evolution? No. It wouldn't be proof that such life had evolved from non-living matter by chance natural processes. And even if we did find evidence of life on Mars it would have most likely have come from our very own planet - Earth! In the Earth's past there was powerful volcanic activity which could have easily spewed dirt containing microbes into outer space which eventually could have reached Mars. A Newsweek article of September 21, 1998, p.12 mentions exactly this possibility.

Ok...?

We know from the law of entropy in science that the universe does not have the ability to have sustained itself from all eternity. It requires a beginning. But, we also know from science that natural laws could not have brought the universe into being from nothing. The beginning of the universe, therefore, points to a supernatural origin!

Appeal to ignorance. Just because we do not understand it does not mean goddidit.

All of this simply means that real science supports faith in God. Science cannot prove that we are here by chance (evolution) or by design (creation). However, the scientific evidence can be used to support one or the other. It is only fair that evidence supporting intelligent design be presented to students alongside of evolutionary theory, especially in public schools which receive funding from taxpayers who are on both sides of the issue. Also, no one is being forced to believe in God or adopt a particular religion so there is no true violation of separation of church and state.

This couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

As a religion and science writer, I encourage all to read my Internet article "The Natural Limits of Evolution" at my website (just google my name).

*The author, Babu G. Ranganathan, is an experienced Christian writer. Mr. Ranganathan has his B.A. with academic concentrations in Bible and Biology from Bob Jones University. As a religion and science writer he has been recognized in the 24th edition of Marquis Who's Who In The East. The author's articles have been published in various publications including Russia's Pravda and South Korea's The Seoul Times.

Not doing so well, so far.

Abiogenesis != evolution. Be careful to remember that.
 
You have happened upon the last and only piece of evolution not directly proved through direct observation. That being life created from non-life parts. Due to the massive misunderstandings conveyed in the OP I will restrict response to one main piece.

It seems that the cell is irreducibly complex. For example, without DNA there can be no RNA, and without RNA there can be no DNA. And without either DNA or RNA there can be no proteins, and without proteins there can be no DNA or RNA. They're all mutually dependent upon each other for existence! It could not have gradually evolved! Evolutionists generally believe that it took one billion years for the first life form or cell to have evolved. That belief, although still taught as gospel in many elementary and secondary schools, cannot be sustained by modern science.

First we can created irreducibly complex (IC) systems from artificial evolution systems. The produced IC systems we created were not designed in but arose by chance. Second, simple organisms do not require both RNA and DNA to be self replicating life. RNA alone can do everything necessary to define the first life, including self replicate.
http://www.hno.harvard.edu/gazette/1996/09.12/CreatingLifeina.html

The rest of the false claims in the OP argument is just an extension of these two false claims plus a God bias. bgrnathan, given that life from non-life is the only unobserved aspect of evolution will you concede evolution when it is observed? A good (honest) intellectual exercise is to research ways to prove you own beliefs wrong. This is what all good researchers do. It's not what believers do.
 
I haven't read the OP yet, but you cannot get a BA in biology.

Just for interest, whilst not wishing to appear to support the OP, there are respected institutions which give BAs and MAs for science degrees. I have an MA in engineering form Cambridge University, England.
 
I wonder how long it will be before we are treated to his other articles.

His Web Site

We have first and second so far.

He holds a B.A. with a major in Bible and a minor in Biology from Bob Jones University in Greenville, South Carolina (class of '82).

I'm certain that many here will give the respect a BA from Bob Jones University deserves.

I wonder if the university still has its charity status removed for being a racist s[rule8]t hole.

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Artificial Life By Intelligent Design!

by Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)*

Recent news reports suggest that scientists may be close to creating artificial (synthetic) life.

As the OP has indicated, it takes something considerably less than divine intelligence to "create life." Therefore, God is an unnecessary complication.
 
Just for interest, whilst not wishing to appear to support the OP, there are respected institutions which give BAs and MAs for science degrees. I have an MA in engineering form Cambridge University, England.

Oh. Ok. I respectfully stand corrected. :o
 
bgrnathan: If you think that God is needed to create life and if scientists do manage to create life in the laboratory do you think that this achievement elevates them to godhood?

If not, why not?
 
bgrnathan: If you think that God is needed to create life and if scientists do manage to create life in the laboratory do you think that this achievement elevates them to godhood?

If not, why not?

Sorry, I think bgrnathan is a synthetic poster.
 
Abiogenesis != evolution. Be careful to remember that.

Interestingly, I find this to be entirely unsatisfying. It seems to be a case of 'passing the buck.' A mechanistic explanation of the universe ultimately will wind up raising the question of, "how did we come to be?"

Here's a crack at it (somebody feel free to correct me/comment):

Abiogenesis, at least as popularly conceived, is a red herring, in that it is based on the fallacy of assuming a clear distinction between life and unlife. If, rather, life and unlife exist merely on a spectrum and the distinction is understood to be an arbitrarily drawn line, abiogenesis is not required.
 
Interestingly, I find this to be entirely unsatisfying. It seems to be a case of 'passing the buck.' A mechanistic explanation of the universe ultimately will wind up raising the question of, "how did we come to be?"

Here's a crack at it (somebody feel free to correct me/comment):

Abiogenesis, at least as popularly conceived, is a red herring, in that it is based on the fallacy of assuming a clear distinction between life and unlife. If, rather, life and unlife exist merely on a spectrum and the distinction is understood to be an arbitrarily drawn line, abiogenesis is not required.

The problem is one from definition.

Evolution happens if you have a self-replicating entity within a population of which there exists variation. Abiogenesis happens when you get this from non-self-replicating entities. Because it is clear that the individual chemicals which make up a modern living organism are not self-replicating, then abiogenesis must have occurred.

One's definition of "life" is important here. I have yet to hear an entirely satisfactory answer on this one. Ultimately, yes, it is a spectrum. We know that evolution by natural selection occurs in a population of self-replicating entities with variation of inheritable traits. Anything else is abiogenesis. If you follow... :o
 
The problem is one from definition.

One's definition of "life" is important here.

I'm not comfortable with self-replication being the sole defining factor for life in terms of abiogenesis... or rather... I'm perfectly comfortable with saying, "Okay, anything which can self-replicate is life, and abiogenesis is where this arises from non-self-replicating entities." With that definition, life loses any sort of 'specialness,' or voodoo, or other mysticism.

So, I'm not comfortable with it as a response to the religious, because they probably shouldn't be comfortable with it. If they insist on life having special properites, this won't be a sufficient refutation...
 

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