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April Presidential Poll: Biden, Trump or ?

April Presidential Poll: Biden, Trump or ?

  • Biden

    Votes: 64 83.1%

  • Trump

    Votes: 5 6.5%

  • None of the above, third party, Planet X, etc.

    Votes: 8 10.4%
  • Total voters
    77
  • Poll closed .

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I'm going to run a poll each month down to the November election. This isn't to determine how this forum leans; I think we all pretty much know how that goes already. This is to see how support for each candidate changes from month-to-month. This poll runs through the end of the month, and I'll start a new one May 1.
 
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I hope Biden wins. Because of that I'm going to bet money on Trump to win. But I can't in good conscience vote for him.
 
I voted Biden because I despise Trump both as a president and as a person. But the fact that the only two viable choices are old white men that have been accused of sexual assault really pisses me off.

Normally, when faced with two crummy (IMO) choices for any executive office, I write myself in, but like 2016, I can't waste my vote so frivolously.
 
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I voted Biden because I despise Trump both as a president and as a person. But the fact that the only two viable choices are old white men that have been accused of sexual assault really pisses me off.

Normally, when faced with two crummy (IMO) choices for any executive office, I write myself in, but like 2016, I can't waste my vote so frivolously.
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Voting for the least bad is wasting it.
 
It's going to be Biden. Biden is up in the Democrat Trifecta, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Michigan. He's neck and neck in Florida too. Biden can either win the Rust Belt or win Florida and any other swing state. DeSantis hurt Trump in Florida, with him publicly making decisions on Trump's lead and the WWE debacle.

Additionally, Trump can't do rallies in the age of Covid 19 and he's getting no bump from how's he handling the pandemic. He had a short-lived surge and is now tanking.

Trump should have taken a lesson from Winston Churchill. Churchill told the British people that he had nothing to offer them but blood, sweat and tears and loved him for it. Trump called Covid 19 a hoax and we all stopped paying attention to him.
 
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Trump should have taken a lesson from Winston Churchill. Churchill told the British people that he had nothing to offer them but blood, sweat and tears and loved him for it. Trump called Covid 19 a hoax and we all stopped paying attention to him.
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They'd be saying he was recklessly spreading panic and that it was racist because the blood, sweat and tears would disproportionately be African American.
 
I think you're mostly going to learn the extent to which people care to answer your poll on a month to month basis here.
 
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They'd be saying he was recklessly spreading panic and that it was racist because the blood, sweat and tears would disproportionately be African American.
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Well, true. You can't be Trump and then suddenly be Winston Churchill. That's the dumb ****'s problem though.
 
Craig4 said:
Well, true. You can't be Trump and then suddenly be Winston Churchill. That's the dumb ****'s problem though.
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Pretty sure Churchill was seen as something of a dangerous ****-up prior to the war. The differences may not be that big.
 
shuttlt said:
Pretty sure Churchill was seen as something of a dangerous ****-up prior to the war. The differences may not be that big.
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Boy. You're rejecting a lot in order to narrow down to the point of potentially inferring equivalence.

Yeah, Churchill's Gallipoli gamble was a bad one. His enthusiasms could lead to bad outcomes. But look at the character of the men, their motives, their work ethic. There is a yawning gulf.
 
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Boy. You're rejecting a lot in order to narrow down to the point of potentially inferring equivalence.

Yeah, Churchill's Gallipoli gamble was a bad one. His enthusiasms could lead to bad outcomes. But look at the character of the men, their motives, their work ethic. There is a yawning gulf.
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It wasn't just Gallipoli, but that is a big part of it. Their motives and character depend on who you ask and at what point in the story you ask them. Somehow despite being the prototypical great leader at the end of the story, one could easily have made the case for Churchill being a risk taking, alcoholic war-mongering nationalist motivated by personal glory, stoking conflict because of a need for money who hadn't realized that the world had changed around him.

I don't see anything from the example of Churchill that makes it impossible for Trump to be highly regarded 80 years from now. We have to wait for events to play out.
 
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shuttlt said:
It wasn't just Gallipoli, but that is a big part of it. Their motives and character depend on who you ask and at what point in the story you ask them. Somehow despite being the prototypical great leader at the end of the story, one could easily have made the case for Churchill being a risk taking, alcoholic war-mongering nationalist motivated by personal glory, stoking conflict because of a need for money who hadn't realized that the world had changed around him.

I don't see anything from the example of Churchill that makes it impossible for Trump to be highly regarded 80 years from now. We have to wait for events to play out.
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Churchill was all of that until his death. He was also an intelligent leader. Trump isn't. There's simply no comparison, and trying to force one is ludicrous. Trump won't be highly regarded in 80 years. Hopefully, and if there is any justice in the world, he will be in jail after finishing his term.

ETA: Churchill led people. Trump is a permission slip for ******** to behave as ********.
 
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shuttlt said:
It wasn't just Gallipoli, but that is a big part of it. Their motives and character depend on who you ask and at what point in the story you ask them. Somehow despite being the prototypical great leader at the end of the story, one could easily have made the case for Churchill being a risk taking, alcoholic war-mongering nationalist motivated by personal glory, stoking conflict because of a need for money who hadn't realized that the world had changed around him.

I don't see anything from the example of Churchill that makes it impossible for Trump to be highly regarded 80 years from now. We have to wait for events to play out.
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The main impediment with the Stupid Bitch in Chief being highly regarded 80 years from now is that he's a complete failure.
 
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