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Another Mall Shooting

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This time at Riverchase Galleria in Hooper, Alabama.

A marginalized man got into an argument with five other marginalized men and they decided it best to pull out their guns and bang it out right there in the middle of the mall.

The sad part is not one of the mother ******* participating in the shootout were hit, but an eight-year-old boy was shot in the head and killed. Three bystanders were also shot.

Victim–
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https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/...r-old-royta-giles-jr-other-gunmen-sought.html



Since this type of thing happens on a fairly regular basis, I am left with one question: Will the culture of violence bring the demise of America's malls before Amazon does?
 
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Elagabalus said:
Hmmm. I'm thinking we should ban all hand guns.
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I'd be surprised if any of the shooters had guns that weren't already illegal. Maybe they should take an illegal shooting course so they can do the work of the soon to be defunded police. I'd be willing to wager that more children are "accidentally"* killed by criminals than police.




*This shooting was no accident. It was the result of indiscriminate gunfire in a public place.
 
Here's one that happened semi-locally and what brought my attention to how often these types of shootings occur when I googled "mall shooting."

This occurred at the Capitol Mall in Jefferson City, Missouri during a carnival in the parking lot.

We learned Wednesday that convicted felon Jernail Hickmon was arrested. He allegedly had a gun on him matching the one used in the shooting on June 26.

Video allegedly shows Hickmon shooting at a car during a carnival outside the mall last week.
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The cherry on the top of this cake came about when the mother of one of the girls involved in the fight drove around town throwing Molotov cocktails at the residents of some of the people involved in the fight with her daughter.

The mother of a girl involved in that fight is in jail too, on arson charges. Iasha Cannady allegedly threw Molotov cocktails at a couple Jefferson City homes as payback.
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https://939theeagle.com/arrest-made-in-capitol-mall-shots-fired/
 
Another

According to the City of Westland Police Department, two or three Black males began arguing inside a perfume store in the mall, which is located at 35000 Warren Road. After the argument ensued, one of the men pulled a handgun and fired two shots, and all of them fled the mall on foot, police said.
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Must've been gang violence over the lucrative perfume trade.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/lo...cident-result-argument-police-say/5412192002/



ETA: another one to add.

According to the Tallahassee Police Department, officers responded to the Governor’s Square Mall to investigate a report of people exchanging gunfire from two vehicles in the parking lot around 2:45 p.m. on Saturday.

After shooting at each other, police say both vehicles left the area.
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https://www.wtxl.com/news/local-new...ot-of-governors-square-mall-tpd-investigating
 
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In the good old days, one used to resolve one's issues at 3:30pm...

... in the parking lot behind the gym
... with one's fists
... or with one's effervescently irresistible charm and wit.
 
Wolrab said:
I'd be surprised if any of the shooters had guns that weren't already illegal.
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I would be more surprised if they hadn't acquired the guns through technically "legal" means, like gun shows or private sales where documentation and diligence aren't required.
 
Today we head to Winston-Salem, North Carolina.

No evidence suggested anyone was shot, but surveillance video showed two groups of men were involved in an argument in the moments leading up to the shooting.

During the argument, police say Jameel Ryheim Zimmerman Jr., 20, of High Point, pulled a gun and shot multiple rounds at the other group.

Another man then returned fire before both groups left.
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OP, I recently saw you say that people here (ISF) think you're racist because you are white. Maybe they actually think that because you keep collecting articles about black people doing bad stuff and then just sort of not making a point about it.
 
The thread is mall shootings. The latest article doesn't mention any race.
 
Busy weekend.


Columbus, Ohio
Columbus Police said officers responded to a call for a shooting at the mall at approximately 2:45 p.m.

Officers found the victim suffering several gunshot wounds to his lower extremities. He was taken to a local hospital and is expected to recover from his injuries.
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Davenport, Iowa
Davenport Police say two people are injured after a shots fired incident at NorthPark Mall late Thursday afternoon. Police believe “a dispute between two groups of subjects” is what resulted in shots being fired.
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Savannah, Georgia
A police spokesperson says that two people inside of the Jimmy Jazz Shoe store got into a fight. One of them pulled out a gun and fired. The two then fled.
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Know what the common ingredient is? Malls? Homelessness? Sobriety? Race? Skin colour? Height above sea-level?

Nope.

This Venn diagram has a 100% intersection on "guns". So perhaps we can start to draw a conclusion here...

Who knew.
 
Norman Alexander said:
Know what the common ingredient is? Malls? Homelessness? Sobriety? Race? Skin colour? Height above sea-level?

Nope.

This Venn diagram has a 100% intersection on "guns". So perhaps we can start to draw a conclusion here...

Who knew.
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Well...yeah. A common denominator in...shootings...would be guns, yeah.

But I live in gun-happy USA, and go to the mall on occasion. I don't get into shootouts. There is something more than just the guns; it is the inclination and willingness to use them to resolve petty disputes. That says more about the user than the tool. Why are some Americans so willing to kill each other? To yours truly, there is almost nothing that would make me want to end a human life. These guys want to do so over arguments at the perfume counter.

It is the people. Killers on the hoof.
 
Thermal said:
Well...yeah. A common denominator in...shootings...would be guns, yeah.

But I live in gun-happy USA, and go to the mall on occasion. I don't get into shootouts. There is something more than just the guns; it is the inclination and willingness to use them to resolve petty disputes. That says more about the user than the tool. Why are some Americans so willing to kill each other? To yours truly, there is almost nothing that would make me want to end a human life. These guys want to do so over arguments at the perfume counter.

It is the people. Killers on the hoof.
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I hardly think Americans are unique when it comes to wanting to bust someone in the chops in public for some reason or another. There's plenty of ultra-aggro folks the world over, and honestly, race, colour, creed and almost any other human attributes don't matter. It's the ridiculously easy access to fast, efficient killing machines that is the problem. The USA is hardly unique in that either, and the same problem exists elsewhere just as much.
 
Norman Alexander said:
I hardly think Americans are unique when it comes to wanting to bust someone in the chops in public for some reason or another.
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I hear you, but we're not talking about busting someone in the chops. As you say, we all want to do that sometimes. We are talking about conciously and deliberately buying the killing tool, its ammunition, bringing it with you, then using it on whatever pretense. This is all about premeditation and preparation to kill, not just wanting to bust chops. Every preparation is made beforehand to take a human life, then just waiting for the target.

There's plenty of ultra-aggro folks the world over, and honestly, race, colour, creed and almost any other human attributes don't matter. It's the ridiculously easy access to fast, efficient killing machines that is the problem. The USA is hardly unique in that either, and the same problem exists elsewhere just as much.
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You seem to be saying that other people, with less access to guns, are equally prepared to kill. What similar preparations do they make?

What happens when they go into killing mode? They just give up, because a convenient tool isn't around? I think actual killers are not so easily deterred, and easy to sway. I think the decision to be a killer, which is made long in advance, is not being taken seriously in a lot of these discussions. Yes, guns make it easier. But there is nothing impulsive about the preparations. They show a calculated premeditation to take human life.
 
Thermal said:
I hear you, but we're not talking about busting someone in the chops. As you say, we all want to do that sometimes. We are talking about conciously and deliberately buying the killing tool, its ammunition, bringing it with you, then using it on whatever pretense. This is all about premeditation and preparation to kill, not just wanting to bust chops. Every preparation is made beforehand to take a human life, then just waiting for the target.



You seem to be saying that other people, with less access to guns, are equally prepared to kill. What similar preparations do they make?

What happens when they go into killing mode? They just give up, because a convenient tool isn't around? I think actual killers are not so easily deterred, and easy to sway. I think the decision to be a killer, which is made long in advance, is not being taken seriously in a lot of these discussions. Yes, guns make it easier. But there is nothing impulsive about the preparations. They show a calculated premeditation to take human life.
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In other cultures arguments like this with people who are willing to use force when they get angry this ends up in fist fights, knifes, idiots using their cars to try to force someone off the road etc.

There is a subset of humanity, regardless of race/religion etc that has anger issues who will in a rage decide to hurt someone with whatever they have to hand. Once in that rage they do not really think or decide, they just do.
And if they have access to the best weapon we devised for killing a lot of people quickly, they will.

It's just that in every other western democracy we've decided that maybe getting such weapons should be very restricted and thus such shootings happen less.
 
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