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An e-mail from a friend.

Cleopatra

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I just got an e-mail from a friend in Israel. He is angry and from what I can read ( between the lines) he blames pacifists for the murder of the innocent jogger George Huri.

I wonder what to reply to him. Any ideas?

George Huri, greek orthodox Israeli arab student of the hebbrew university, was murdered by the "Al Aqsa Shuhada" - an organization linked to Yasser Arafat, while jogging in West Jerusalem.

I remind you that George's grand father Daoud was also killed in a terrorist action in Jerusalem 29 years ago (the very fact that we remember him means that at that time the murder was still small scale, not what we see today).

But the most strange part is George's father and Daoud's son - who is an israeli arab laweyer who specializes in challenging in courts what he calls "confiscation of arab lands'. I swear I remember seing him on Israel TV saying that he has no hard feelings against those who executed his father, because they ahd no other way of keeping the Palestinian problem open. Now that his son was murdered, he blames the occupation more that Shuahada El-Aksa ...

And Shuahada Il-Aqsa apologized - adding that they mistook him for a settler. Which proves that some arabs do not look that different from "setllers" - but also since George was jogging in West Jerusalme, the implication is that all israelis, from both sides of the dividing green line, are setllers as far as the Arafat - linked organization is concerned.

Perhaps one might add that if teh wall had been built in that neighbourhood, George might have been alive today, but I guess that goes too far ...
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"I just got an e-mail from a friend in Israel. He is angry and from what I can read ( between the lines) he blames pacifists for the murder of the innocent jogger George Huri."

Ask him why he thinks that George Huri was killed by a pacifist. And if he doesn't think Huri was killed by a pacifist, ask him why he blames pacifists for the murder. Tell him that it isn't very likely that Huri was murdered by a pacifist.
 
demon said:
"I just got an e-mail from a friend in Israel. He is angry and from what I can read ( between the lines) he blames pacifists for the murder of the innocent jogger George Huri."

Ask him why he thinks that George Huri was killed by a pacifist. And if he doesn't think Huri was killed by a pacifist, ask him why he blames pacifists for the murder. Tell him that it isn't very likely that Huri was murdered by a pacifist.
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I wonder about this too. Could it be that the pacifists on both sides were not to blame for the collapse of Oslo, but the warmongers on both sides?
 
Cleopatra said:
I just got an e-mail from a friend in Israel. He is angry and from what I can read ( between the lines) he blames pacifists for the murder of the innocent jogger George Huri.

I wonder what to reply to him. Any ideas?
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I would check out Snopes. That email sounds like a hoax.
 
a_unique_person said:


I wonder about this too. Could it be that the pacifists on both sides were not to blame for the collapse of Oslo, but the warmongers on both sides?
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The warmongers are to blame, of course. But the pacifists share the blame for not doing enough to keep them in check.
 
Cleopatra said:
I can read ( between the lines) he blames pacifists for the murder of the innocent jogger George Huri.
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Ask this question clearly for him. It is hard to argue when you are just guessing what is in someones mind.
 
demon said:
Ask him why he thinks that George Huri was killed by a pacifist. And if he doesn't think Huri was killed by a pacifist, ask him why he blames pacifists for the murder. Tell him that it isn't very likely that Huri was murdered by a pacifist.
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Quite right. It was Shuahada Il-Aqsa.
 
Incompetent terrorists are the modern equivalent of the "loose cannon". Less of a danger to the "enemy" than to their own people. I suppose if they'd gunned down some "settler's" grandma there'd have been no need for appologies?

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Whos really to blame?? HEALTH ADVOCATES who tell us to excerise. Sure did a lot to extend this guys life.
 
a_unique_person said:


Hard to argue with logic like that. The corollary of course is that the road to heaven is paved with bad intentions.
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'Of course'?


How about: The road to heaven is paved with good actions.



It seems more to me that that is the corollary that the originator of that phrase might have had in mind.
 
aerocontrols said:


How about: The road to heaven is paved with good actions.
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I got a better one: "The road to heaven is paved with good results".
 
Tony said:



I got a better one: "The road to heaven is paved with good results".
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Sure.

I guess my point was that it makes no sense that the statement is an indictment of having good intentions, rather than an indictment of using good intentions as an excuse for not actually doing anything good.

MattJ
 
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