An assasination works

[Troll]

Hamas leader assinated (assinated? He was an ass and killed. hardly assinated like kennedy or lennon or any other wussified, "let us love one another type")

Fact of the matter is a leader of a terrorist group was banked off today. Yay for civilized people.

Hamas said they would take revenge on the US as well due to the backing of Israel.
Good for those silly twits. Expand upon those that will destroy you. "duh"

Bad move for hamas and those of you that would support their stance on things. Go ahead and attack the US, hamas. See how long you have left

and yes, you dimwits, hamas is a terror group. They aren't freedom fighters, they aren't seekers of peace. They just hate being the brunt of idiots that get nailed more than others and fail to realize they deserve it for their own damned actions

 

[Troll]

And before the idiots can start making claims:

No I am not anti-arab

anti-anything really

I am pro kicking ass of those that are anti-you or me or anyone else

 

[Troll]

a different way of wording it

An ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ that promoted the deaths of others saw his own death come to fruition today. Yay for him

 

[American]

Who would have guessed that guy had rockets with his name on them? I bet the missle's wiring was made with a solid-state image of a beard in a wheelchair.

 

[Troll]

I cannot understand some of you. So please explain to me why it is that some of you do feel that Israel is bad for killing or targeting those that want to kill them.

If I was a threat to you, would you not try to take me out before I got to you? Or are you such a sympathy wuss that yopu'd gladly die now and accomplish nothing other than hoping your death made others rise up? haha good going on the last thing. and good luck

 

[Troll]

Who would have guessed that guy had rockets with his name on them? I bet the missle's wiring was made with a solid-state image of a beard in a wheelchair.

The bigger question is who really freaking cares?

He could have been blind, deaf and mute, the fact is that he promoted killing and as such was killed.

 

[American]

The bigger question is who really freaking cares?

He could have been blind, deaf and mute, the fact is that he promoted killing and as such was killed.

My point exactly. Relax.

 

[Troll]

My point exactly. Relax.

haha. I've read enough of your posts to know how you feel about this. I just wanted to ensure the others knew how I felt before they got all moronic and defended the dude and condemned Israel

 

[iain]

Troll,

Attacking non-existent posters now? Calm down there!

For me, whether or not the guy was masterminding terrorist attacks is not the main point (nor was it for the senior member of the Israeli security cabinet who opposed this move, I imagine).

The issue is surely whether it helps or hinders their objectives : in this case, the Israeli's objective to reduce the threat of terrorism and protect their own population from the terrorists. And, of course, it isn't a straight forward assassinate or do nothing - there are lots of options inbetween.

There may be many cases where assassination does work. Where an organisation is being driven from the top, and cutting off the top damages the organisation, there might be a case for it. Getting the leaders out of the picture should help you. In other cases, where the foot-soldiers are fanatics and will carry on regardless of what happens to the leader, assassinating the leaders might be counter-productive.

I don't actually know enough to make that judgement myself - I can see how there could be arguments on both sides. What I think would be clearly wrong would be to put the lives of thousands of people at risk just to get a macho we've killed one of the bad guys feeling.

There is a war being fought against terrorism. The objective is to win the war. Assassination is a good tactic only if it furthers that aim. There are many cases where it might not (e.g. if it might result in a weaker leader being replaced by a stronger one).

 

[Troll]

Troll,

Attacking non-existent posters now? Calm down there!

For me, whether or not the guy was masterminding terrorist attacks is not the main point (nor was it for the senior member of the Israeli security cabinet who opposed this move, I imagine).

The issue is surely whether it helps or hinders their objectives : in this case, the Israeli's objective to reduce the threat of terrorism and protect their own population from the terrorists. And, of course, it isn't a straight forward assassinate or do nothing - there are lots of options inbetween.

There may be many cases where assassination does work. Where an organisation is being driven from the top, and cutting off the top damages the organisation, there might be a case for it. Getting the leaders out of the picture should help you. In other cases, where the foot-soldiers are fanatics and will carry on regardless of what happens to the leader, assassinating the leaders might be counter-productive.

I don't actually know enough to make that judgement myself - I can see how there could be arguments on both sides. What I think would be clearly wrong would be to put the lives of thousands of people at risk just to get a macho we've killed one of the bad guys feeling.

There is a war being fought against terrorism. The objective is to win the war. Assassination is a good tactic only if it furthers that aim. There are many cases where it might not (e.g. if it might result in a weaker leader being replaced by a stronger one).

Well firstly, they exist, I just covered all their moronic replies so that they may take time to think for once before replying.

I'm very much a black and white kind of guy. If you promote the killing of anyone regardless of what the reason is (sex, race, height, weight.........) I'll support the removal of your life. sure you may have idiotic followers that vow revenge, but you have to start with the supplier of idiocy and work your way down. It is just like a war. Start with the supply bunkers, then the supply routes, then the troops that have what supplies that got through.

Today one of the suppliers were removed. The idiotic followers made a threat to the US because of it. Given the current schematic of things and people in control, I think they misread the blueprints and are building up a reason for the demoliton of their home as opposed to the room additions they thought they were seeking.

 

[American]

Troll,

Attacking non-existent posters now? Calm down there!

For me, whether or not the guy was masterminding terrorist attacks is not the main point (nor was it for the senior member of the Israeli security cabinet who opposed this move, I imagine).

The issue is surely whether it helps or hinders their objectives : in this case, the Israeli's objective to reduce the threat of terrorism and protect their own population from the terrorists. And, of course, it isn't a straight forward assassinate or do nothing - there are lots of options inbetween.

There may be many cases where assassination does work. Where an organisation is being driven from the top, and cutting off the top damages the organisation, there might be a case for it. Getting the leaders out of the picture should help you. In other cases, where the foot-soldiers are fanatics and will carry on regardless of what happens to the leader, assassinating the leaders might be counter-productive.

I don't actually know enough to make that judgement myself - I can see how there could be arguments on both sides. What I think would be clearly wrong would be to put the lives of thousands of people at risk just to get a macho we've killed one of the bad guys feeling.

There is a war being fought against terrorism. The objective is to win the war. Assassination is a good tactic only if it furthers that aim. There are many cases where it might not (e.g. if it might result in a weaker leader being replaced by a stronger one).

My favorite part was when the missle blew up!

 

[iain]

I'm very much a black and white kind of guy. If you promote the killing of anyone regardless of what the reason is (sex, race, height, weight.........) I'll support the removal of your life.

I'm sure you don't really mean that. The coalition have been promoting the killing of many Iraqis and others (nationality, location, job...); I certainly don't think Bush, Blair et. al. deserve to die for that.

 

[iain]

My favorite part was when the missle blew up!

I think that pretty much says it all.

 

[Troll]

I'm sure you don't really mean that. The coalition have been promoting the killing of many Iraqis and others (nationality, location, job...); I certainly don't think Bush, Blair et. al. deserve to die for that.

Nice try

But see you cocked it up. They were on the second part of what I said and not the first. I'll repeat here so you can see it again in context. Promote the killing of people (Iraq and paying suicide bombers and terrorists) and I will support the removal of your life ( US kills Hussein sons). You tried to be funny and put Bush and Blair into the support the killing of someone, as opposed to the retaliatory killing you instead situation. Maybe you were hoping for some slower child to be your posting nemesis in this thread? Sorry. I'm way quicker than most.

 

[iain]

Nice try

But see you cocked it up. They were on the second part of what I said and not the first. I'll repeat here so you can see it again in context. Promote the killing of people (Iraq and paying suicide bombers and terrorists) and I will support the removal of your life ( US kills Hussein sons). You tried to be funny and put Bush and Blair into the support the killing of someone, as opposed to the retaliatory killing you instead situation. Maybe you were hoping for some slower child to be your posting nemesis in this thread? Sorry. I'm way quicker than most.

You might think you're quicker than most, but that's not the way it's looking from my side.

Firstly, I wasn't trying to catch you out. I started off saying that I was sure you didn't mean what your words implied, so I was merely pointing out an ambiguity in your statement.

Secondly, you haven't even checked what you wrote.

If you promote the killing of anyone regardless of what the reason is (sex, race, height, weight.........) I'll support the removal of your life.

See. You didn't mention anything about retaliatory killings being excluded (and we'll leave to one side just what the Iraqi war might be retaliation for). You specifically said the killing of anyone regardless of what the reason is. Perhaps you should have said "The non-relatiatory killing of anyone regardless of what the reason is", but you didn't.

 

[Troll]

You might think you're quicker than most, but that's not the way it's looking from my side.

Firstly, I wasn't trying to catch you out. I started off saying that I was sure you didn't mean what your words implied, so I was merely pointing out an ambiguity in your statement.

Secondly, you haven't even checked what you wrote.

See. You didn't mention anything about retaliatory killings being excluded (and we'll leave to one side just what the Iraqi war might be retaliation for). You specifically said the killing of anyone regardless of what the reason is. Perhaps you should have said "The non-relatiatory killing of anyone regardless of what the reason is", but you didn't.

No I didn't mention retaliatory killings verbatim as I gave an example and hoped for intelligent folks to gather the concept.

If you support killing the jews, the ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊, the fags etc..., then I support you getting your ass killed to help prevent you from furthering your dumbassed cause.

Is that clearer for you? I can look for crayon pictures if you need more assistance. haha Just razzing ya

 

[iain]

No I didn't mention retaliatory killings verbatim as I gave an example and hoped for intelligent folks to gather the concept.

If you support killing the jews, the ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊, the fags etc..., then I support you getting your ass killed to help prevent you from furthering your dumbassed cause.

Is that clearer for you? I can look for crayon pictures if you need more assistance. haha Just razzing ya

I'm honoured by your offer. I just pointed out your mistake, nice guy that I am. Wouldn't want something like that ending up in someone's sig. now