All Juice Detox Diet

dogbite666

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Hello,

I've just given up smoking and thought I'd go the whole hog by starting my regime at the gym again and stop drinkning any booze for a few weeks. I have been advised by a nutritionist friend that I would benefit by kick starting my healthy lifestyle with an all juice diet for two days. This involves drinkning only freshly made fruit and veg juices, no solids, for 48 hours.

It sounds like bunk to me. I'm sure fresh juices are very good for you but not so sure about the all juice diet. She claims it helps the body to detox. I pointed out that the body is detoxing iteself all the time which she agreed. My question is - are there any benefits from the all juice diet or does it make no difference, any more or less healthy, if I was to have a health meal with my juice?

Is it worth me starving myself for 48 hours? Will starving myself be more harmful than eating healthy meals along with the juice?

Dogbite.
 
"Starving" yourself for 48 hours is certainly not harmful, unless you suffer from certain diseases. That thing about the fresh vegetable juice detoxination is bunk though, simply because you can find a pretty good amount of toxins in vegetables too, as in any other food group. This is not to say that it won't be helpful; it probably will, because any food rotating is potentially good. Variety is the key.

Don't make "too processed" food the basis of your diet. Have variety. Eat pretty much everything, including meat, grains, legumes, vegetables, fruit, dairy etc unless you have discovered a certain sensitivity. Get protein, omega-3 and fiber every day. Drink adequate water. And eat so that you maintain a healthy bodyfat level. That's all. There's not much more to a good diet.
 
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dogbite666 said:
Hello,

I've just given up smoking and thought I'd go the whole hog by starting my regime at the gym again and stop drinkning any booze for a few weeks. I have been advised by a nutritionist friend that I would benefit by kick starting my healthy lifestyle with an all juice diet for two days. This involves drinkning only freshly made fruit and veg juices, no solids, for 48 hours.

It sounds like bunk to me. I'm sure fresh juices are very good for you but not so sure about the all juice diet. She claims it helps the body to detox. I pointed out that the body is detoxing iteself all the time which she agreed. My question is - are there any benefits from the all juice diet or does it make no difference, any more or less healthy, if I was to have a health meal with my juice?

Is it worth me starving myself for 48 hours? Will starving myself be more harmful than eating healthy meals along with the juice?

Dogbite.
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If you are giving up smoking the last thing you want is to be put under the stress of a new diet.

My guess is that a juice diet will result in you spending far more of the 48 hours on the Loo daydreaming of cigs than you otherwise would.

Detoxing is bunk. See Ben Goldacre’s Bad Science take on it.
 
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Bad news: You (your body) is continously manufacturing toxic substances.
Good news: You (your body) have several systems dedicated to detoxifying said substances and getting ris of them. Liver, lungs, kidneys to name the most important.

What is really ironic is that meny of the "detoxifying" schemes seems to be set up to producing more toxins than to rid the body of them. Any serious fasting will do the trick and eventually produce a ketoacidosis (granted that a short period of fasting has no longlasting negative effect on your health, I can't see that it is particularly healthy either. That is if you're not grossly overweight, but in that case you just have to produce some toxins in order to loose weight).
 
Lothian said:
My guess is that a juice diet will result in you spending far more of the 48 hours on the Loo daydreaming of cigs than you otherwise would.
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I agree with Lothian. Two days of nothing but liquid plants probably won't hurt or help all that much nutritionally, but I can see where it would give you more to crave.
 
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Any serious fasting will do the trick and eventually produce a ketoacidosis
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If it did, lots of people would be dead by know :D You're confusing ketosis with ketoacidosis. For acidosis to happen other conditions are also necessary, eg diabetes. Unless by "eventually" you mean the terminal stages of a hunger strike :D

As for the possible health benefits of controlled fasting... let's not get there now. Suffice to say that there have been very interesting studies on fasting for one day and overeating on the next, on protein-sparing modified fasts, etc. Example.
 
i am so jaded by the term "detox" alone that any positive connotations are lost on me.
 
Granted, the term has been abused a lot, but let's not get to the other end. There are toxins, and there is detoxification. Toxicology is all about it. And pretty much everything can be toxic in the right dosage. Besides, what is toxic in mega-doses may be essential in normal doses. Also, "detoxing" is frequently used to mean clearance of harmful substances in general, including toxins, allergens, pollutants, poisons etc. Many bogus therapies and products promise an almost magical detoxification from everything. While these are obviously bunk, clearance of harmful substances is a very interesting area for decent research.
 
No diet is going to hasten the removal of tar from your lungs.

Nicotine is an appetite suppressant; the last thing you want to do when you quit smoking is go on a diet. Concentrate on doing things to stave off the cravings; get some ‘stick like’ food (pretzel rods, licorice, carrots, etc) and ‘smoke’ those. No, I don’t mean light them on fire... hold them like you would a cigarette and nibble instead of puff. It’ll give you something to do with your hands.

Getting healthy is an admirable goal, but remember you’re fighting an addiction here. Don’t try and do too much at once.
 
I also think that whether altering dietary habits will work together with quitting smoking, greatly depends on the person. I for example, am an "all or nothing" person. When there are stressors in my life, I adhere more closely to my planned diet; for me it's a means of exerting control in one area to counterbalance the lack of control in other areas. I'm more likely to break diets when everything is going well. Personally I would have never quit smoking if I hadn't combined it with a healthy lifestyle.
 
El Greco said:
I also think that whether altering dietary habits will work together with quitting smoking, greatly depends on the person. I for example, am an "all or nothing" person. When there are stressors in my life, I adhere more closely to my planned diet; for me it's a means of exerting control in one area to counterbalance the lack of control in other areas. I'm more likely to break diets when everything is going well. Personally I would have never quit smoking if I hadn't combined it with a healthy lifestyle.
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Hey, if it works for you, fantastic. Do whatever works best for you.
 
Just a note of support:

Good luck quitting! It's a tough job, but well worth doing. :)

ETA: I don't mean that sarcastically, either.
 
dogbite666 said:
Hello,

I've just given up smoking and thought I'd go the whole hog by starting my regime at the gym again and stop drinkning any booze for a few weeks. I have been advised by a nutritionist friend that I would benefit by kick starting my healthy lifestyle with an all juice diet for two days. This involves drinkning only freshly made fruit and veg juices, no solids, for 48 hours.

It sounds like bunk to me. I'm sure fresh juices are very good for you but not so sure about the all juice diet. She claims it helps the body to detox. I pointed out that the body is detoxing iteself all the time which she agreed. My question is - are there any benefits from the all juice diet or does it make no difference, any more or less healthy, if I was to have a health meal with my juice?

Is it worth me starving myself for 48 hours? Will starving myself be more harmful than eating healthy meals along with the juice?

Dogbite.
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Lottsa luck with the 'no smoking'. Great way to go. Pink lungs, yeaah.

Not to sure about the 'no booze' for a few weeks though. How are we 'sane' people supposed to put up with all the woo woo nutters out there, without a beer to fall back on.

Be careful, as it may only take a couple of days without booze for you to be turned to the dark side.
 
dogbite666 said:
Is it worth me starving myself for 48 hours? Will starving myself be more harmful than eating healthy meals along with the juice?
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I'm not sure if juice is the equivalent of 'starving,' though. I think the benefit may be to prepare your stomach for less food when you do start dieting, while providing a good calorie and nutrient intake. Juices are very calorie dense. Like soft drinks.

I don't think this is the same thing as 'detox' and I don't think it's bad advice.
 
Doesn't seem like particularly good advice, either. Is there supposed to be some science behind it?
 
I think the best way to make changes in your life is to stick with ONE thing at a time. You'll have better results than scattershooting & trying to accomplish several difficult things all at once.

I'm a recovering addict. It took me about 2 weeks to get over alcohol abstinence. It took about 6 weeks to get through opiates.

It took a full year before I stopped missing cigarettes when I eventually quit.

You'll probably gain weight. I did but I was having a tough enough time
with the nicotine without having to start depriving myself of the food I was craving.

In time---the weight will come off. A temporary weight gain will do you far less harm then tobacco will.

Smoking's tough--you need to take a"whatever it takes" approach and put everything else on the back burner for a few months...
 
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