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Alec Baldwin regrets tweeting, again.

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Ah, Alec Baldwin, the Once and Future Tool.

Seriously, you'd think he'd learn that using homophobic insults is not the way to win friends and influence people or barring that, that Twitter is a public place and what he says is likely to be read by all sorts of people.

But no, that lesson never seems to stick. It's like the video of that cat that falls off the TV every single night. His inability to learn is actually kinda impressive when you think about it.
 
You know, I get it. The guy has anger issues. When he loses his temper (which happens often), he says angry and stupid things.

What I don't get is why his manager, agent, or even just his drinking buddies don't just tell him "you really shouldn't interact with the public."
 
PinkRabbit said:
Ah, Alec Baldwin, the Once and Future Tool.

Seriously, you'd think he'd learn that using homophobic insults is not the way to win friends and influence people or barring that, that Twitter is a public place and what he says is likely to be read by all sorts of people.

But no, that lesson never seems to stick. It's like the video of that cat that falls off the TV every single night. His inability to learn is actually kinda impressive when you think about it.
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Why does the joke have to be homophobic?
 
PinkRabbit said:
It's like the video of that cat that falls off the TV every single night. His inability to learn is actually kinda impressive when you think about it.
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You can't go dropping an analogy like that, and not link us to the video!

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It seems to me, when you are trying to be insulting and hurtful, it shouldn't count as a general attitude. I don't count it as homophobic to attempt a slur against someone based on a gay stereotype, so long as the message is insulting to the target.

So, for example, if I call Al Sharpton a no-good blasphemer, I'm not suddenly dropping my atheist stance that denies the crime exists, I'm just trying to get under his skin using a tool I think will do the job. In the service of effective combat, I am very likely to say things I don't mean at all, especially if those things hit my opponent in vulnerable places.

I fear we are losing our ability to insult well and turning verbal combat into a bloodless, effeminate sport. (See how I used "effeminate" there for effect?) Rise up! Rise up and reject colorless, vapid pseudo-insults for the bland pablum they are. Quit hiding your true feelings behind PC-porridge and namby-pamby nuance. At least respect me enough to go a full barrage of your best cannon.
 
marplots said:
It seems to me, when you are trying to be insulting and hurtful, it shouldn't count as a general attitude. I don't count it as homophobic to attempt a slur against someone based on a gay stereotype, so long as the message is insulting to the target.

So, for example, if I call Al Sharpton a no-good blasphemer, I'm not suddenly dropping my atheist stance that denies the crime exists, I'm just trying to get under his skin using a tool I think will do the job. In the service of effective combat, I am very likely to say things I don't mean at all, especially if those things hit my opponent in vulnerable places.

I fear we are losing our ability to insult well and turning verbal combat into a bloodless, effeminate sport. (See how I used "effeminate" there for effect?) Rise up! Rise up and reject colorless, vapid pseudo-insults for the bland pablum they are. Quit hiding your true feelings behind PC-porridge and namby-pamby nuance. At least respect me enough to go a full barrage of your best cannon.
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Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!

Better?

:D
 
Life follows Art: Alec Baldwin seems to have become the charecter he played in "Glengarry Glen Ross".
"Do you know what it takes to tweet absolute crap?.BALLS!".
 
marplots said:
It seems to me, when you are trying to be insulting and hurtful, it shouldn't count as a general attitude. I don't count it as homophobic to attempt a slur against someone based on a gay stereotype, so long as the message is insulting to the target.

So, for example, if I call Al Sharpton a no-good blasphemer, I'm not suddenly dropping my atheist stance that denies the crime exists, I'm just trying to get under his skin using a tool I think will do the job. In the service of effective combat, I am very likely to say things I don't mean at all, especially if those things hit my opponent in vulnerable places.

I fear we are losing our ability to insult well and turning verbal combat into a bloodless, effeminate sport. (See how I used "effeminate" there for effect?) Rise up! Rise up and reject colorless, vapid pseudo-insults for the bland pablum they are. Quit hiding your true feelings behind PC-porridge and namby-pamby nuance. At least respect me enough to go a full barrage of your best cannon.
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I pretty much agree with you. I think people should be judged on their actions and less on words, especially when those words were deliberately meant to be insulting and hurtful to a particular person. That's sort of the point of insults, to hurt the target. So one typically uses words believed to have the desired effect.

This reminds me of the Michael Richards (Kramer from Seinfeld) fiasco. He was mad at a couple of young black men and used a word he thought would be most hurtful. I don't know what Richard's true feeling are to black people in general, but this one situation was directed at a specific target, not a general populace. Alec Baldwin's insults are similar with the difference that his target is not necessarily a member of the group on which his slur is based.

I'm not sticking up for either gentleman, it's not how I would have reacted and Baldwin does seem a bit of a douche, but I think the outcry is out of proportion to the "crime".
 
Cleon said:
You know, I get it. The guy has anger issues. When he loses his temper (which happens often), he says angry and stupid things.

What I don't get is why his manager, agent, or even just his drinking buddies don't just tell him "you really shouldn't interact with the public."
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While I understand what you are talking about, I don't believe it is possible. I think that when he is in full ego/angry mode, he listens to no one.
 
dudalb said:
Life follows Art: Alec Baldwin seems to have become the charecter he played in "Glengarry Glen Ross".
"Do you know what it takes to tweet absolute crap?.BALLS!".
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Perhaps a good Twitter handle for him might be

@MyName?MyNameIs****You
 
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I went through the list of Social Issues & Current Event topics and there were a lot of serious issues in there. Ones of significant consequence, ones that sounded like they would be intellectually interesting, and ones that might challenge my preconceptions. And I chose this one. It made me smile a bit.

Ah, poor Alec Baldwin. He seems like the kind of guy I might like. And when he goes off, any embarrassment I might feel about losing my temper occasionally can be completely offset by the opportunity to laugh at him. Jeez if a guy like that, who seems to have just about everything going his way, can act like a complete idiot periodically who am I to judge myself so harshly for doing the same thing?

I felt genuinely bad for him years ago when he broke up with Kim Bassinger. I don't know why I cared about somebody who I have never met and never will, but they seemed like nice people who had a good thing going and then it was over. I particularly enjoyed a The Simpsons episode that Baldwin and Bassinger were in.

Of course, if laughing at Alec Baldwin isn't your thing, there is always the crazy Baldwin brother that is good for some comic relief.
 
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