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Al-Jazeera "debating" Saddam's Execution

EGarrett said:
I also like the one guy's "argument" that Saddam executed his brother and the uncle of his children, but Saddam died like a great man.
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In the older sense of the word, "great" meant "prominent", not "good". Hence Ramses the Great, Alexander the Great, Gregory the Great, Peter the Great, Catherine the Great, etc. Nobody necessarily liked those people. Some of them were completely awful. Alexander had more people butchered than Saddam did, and he didn't even have the benefit of modern weapons. But his impact on his time was significant, hence he was "great".
 
Have to wonder what kind of mentality allows someone to praise the man that murdered (sorry, executed) your brother and family.

I don't know....

And we're supposed to being peace to Iraq?


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This Guy said:
Have to wonder what kind of mentality allows someone to praise the man that murdered (sorry, executed) your brother and family.
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That's simple: a mentality that respects force and power above all else, with the usual additional corollary of despising the weak for being weak.

You can recognize such people by their behavior towards others: that is, if they think they are stronger than themselves, they grovel; if they think they themselves are stronger, they despise and attack them.

As someone once said (originally, I think, about the Germans in WWI): "They're always either at your throat or at your feet".
 
Skeptic said:
That's simple: a mentality that respects force and power above all else, with the usual additional corollary of despising the weak for being weak.

You can recognize such people by their behavior towards others: that is, if they think they are stronger than themselves, they grovel; if they think they themselves are stronger, they despise and attack them.

As someone once said (originally, I think, about the Germans in WWI): "They're always either at your throat or at your feet".
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Thank you for that analysis, Skeptic. You have an interesting insight into the character of Dick Cheney.
 
hgc said:
Thank you for that analysis, Skeptic. You have an interesting insight into the character of Dick Cheney.
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Not interesting, just normal - it's called pecking order and occurs in pretty much any biological group that has a functional brain thinking ability, not just control and response) and groups together.
 
hgc said:
Thank you for that analysis, Skeptic. You have an interesting insight into the character of Dick Cheney.
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I doubt Dick Cheney would praise someone who murdered his family. Nor would most Americans, I suspect.
 
Funny thread, and even funnier follow-ups.

Saddam was a rather vicious, nasty butcher and murderer. Yet he died showing more dignity than the Shias taunting him at the gallows, and he got in one good one-liner back at them.

Sheeeeesh. Some of you really go overboard in trying to demonise enemies; it really gets ridiculous at times.
 
Gurdur said:
Sheeeeesh. Some of you really go overboard in trying to demonise enemies; it really gets ridiculous at times.
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I would say the same thing about people trying to demonize their own government.
 
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Pardalis said:
I would say the same thing about people trying to demonize their own government.
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Unless the government were literally demonic. Presumably Hell has some sort of government to deal with the management of so many citizens, and I'd assume that demons, being immortal, would be logical choices for office since they'd gather lots and lots of political experience. Except people probably complain about the governance of Hell, and the demon spokesman goes on TV and complains that people are angelicizing the government.
 
Gurdur said:
Funny thread, and even funnier follow-ups.

Saddam was a rather vicious, nasty butcher and murderer. Yet he died showing more dignity than the Shias taunting him at the gallows, and he got in one good one-liner back at them.

Sheeeeesh. Some of you really go overboard in trying to demonise enemies; it really gets ridiculous at times.
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Saddam was in a situation where he had few options, but still had a desire to fight back, so he used what tools he had to hand in order to defy his tormentors (as he saw them) and his gambit payed off: his last moments, filmed, sent a message, even as he was approaching the moment of no longer being able to send any message.

A mouse giving the finger to an eagle seems the appropriate T Shirt for that event, doesn't it?

DR
 
TragicMonkey said:
Unless the government were literally demonic. Presumably Hell has some sort of government to deal with the management of so many citizens, and I'd assume that demons, being immortal, would be logical choices for office since they'd gather lots and lots of political experience. Except people probably complain about the governance of Hell, and the demon spokesman goes on TV and complains that people are angelicizing the government.
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Hell is run by its own tri-lateral commission, Satan, Beelzebub and Lucifer.
Below that is a feudal system.
Given the expertise they have on hand, hell has a very well developed political and legal system, although the advice the daemons receive tends to be punctuated by screams.
 
TragicMonkey said:
Unless the government were literally demonic. Presumably Hell has some sort of government to deal with the management of so many citizens, and I'd assume that demons, being immortal, would be logical choices for office since they'd gather lots and lots of political experience. Except people probably complain about the governance of Hell, and the demon spokesman goes on TV and complains that people are angelicizing the government.
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And you know the streets are just the connections between pot holes, and public toilets aren't clean, and the traffic lights are out of synch. It's Hell, after all. :p

DR
 
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