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Acupuncture

Phill

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My local football team is treating torn hamstrings with acupuncture!
I want to point out to them the absurdity of that. I am aware of an article in the Journal of the AMA that rates real acupuncture equal with "sham" acupuncture (ie putting the needles in the "wrong" places), but better than no treatment. This, I take it, means that acupuncture is as effective as a placebo.

My question is: Has any acupuncture practitioner ever applied for the $1 million challenge? If so what (briefly) was the protocol and what were the results of the preliminary test.

I am aware that no-one has ever passed the preliminary stage.

Any help would be appreciated to stop this silly waste of resources.
 
Phill said:
My local football team is treating torn hamstrings with acupuncture!
I want to point out to them the absurdity of that. I am aware of an article in the Journal of the AMA that rates real acupuncture equal with "sham" acupuncture (ie putting the needles in the "wrong" places), but better than no treatment. This, I take it, means that acupuncture is as effective as a placebo.

My question is: Has any acupuncture practitioner ever applied for the $1 million challenge? If so what (briefly) was the protocol and what were the results of the preliminary test.

I am aware that no-one has ever passed the preliminary stage.

Any help would be appreciated to stop this silly waste of resources.
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As I recall, the best treatment for torn muscles is rest. Not a Dr., not a trainer, just someone who was a jock 30 years and 120 lb ago...

so, if they are acupuncturing and keeping the kids off the playing field, they are making things better. Some may think this is because of acupuncure.
I am undergoing acupuncture right now-and its very successful. Every Tuesday, the Doctor acurately punctures my left knee with a long syringe, and pumps SUPARTZ in....
 
Welcome! (As if I weren't a new member myself... ;)) You might want to go to the forums search page and do a search for 'acupuncture' after selecting the 'Search titles only' option. This way, you'll get a list of only those threads that contain the word in their title, and therefore are likelier to focus mainly on the subject you want. This will list twenty-odd threads (instead of over three hundred that would result from a full search).
 
Hi Phill.

To save you some time searching about acupuncture, let me give you the skinny right here:

Acupuncture is complete bollox.

Welcome to the JREF.
 
Reno said:
Hi Phill.

To save you some time searching about acupuncture, let me give you the skinny right here:

Acupuncture is complete bollox.

Welcome to the JREF.
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That was my point. I know it is "bollox".
I know it has been tested in "Real" vs "Sham" acupuncture.
What I wanted to know was has anyone ever put it up for the $1 million. If so, was was the protocol?
If no-one has ever done so, that in itself would be a good point to make.
 
Yep Phill, I figured you knew it was bollox. The problem you'll have trying to convince those who use it, or believe in it that it is bollox, is that no matter how good your argument is, or what evidence you present, the likelihood is that in the end, they'll still believe it works. Your final, exsasperated comment to those you are trying to convince, after months of research, and logical argument is likely to be:

Acupuncture is complete bollox.

I wish it could be otherwise Phill, really I do.
 
Phill said:

My question is: Has any acupuncture practitioner ever applied for the $1 million challenge?
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I doubt it. Certianly I have never seen any reports of such a case.
 
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