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A sea monster?

Ed said:
I really, really love the idea of sea monsters.
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I love the idea of sea monsters as well. Giant squid currently fill the bill for me. In a past life I used the same part of my heart to love the idea of Sasquatch.

The bloop is intriguing, thanks for sharing, but I can't escape the thought that there must be thousands of "mundane" explanations. A huge release of methane from the seabed due to an anomalous geothermal event?
 
It's not impossible, the oceans on earth are vast and a lot of it is unexplored.
 
I give far more weight to oceanic creatures than lake monsters. All of the top 10-20+ largest animal species on the planet live in the ocean. Lakes are too small to support 5,000 30+foot animals, which is a breeding population. While it is true that we know of a tiny fraction of the species on this planet the species that we don't know of are either in the ocean, in the rain forest, or very small. Large land or lake animals are not going to go unnoticed especially in reasonably populated areas. Bigfoot should have been shot by hunters or hit by a car by now. Loch Ness being supposedly reptilian should come up for air on a regular basis and fisherman should have accidentally hooked it by now. While I would still like to see a specimen of this bloop, there is a reasonable chance that a very large animal could have produced such a signal.
 
How many recordings are avaliable?

A breeding population of bloops would make a lot of noise...

According to the CNN article, bloops are supposed to need an organ like "gas-filled sac" to make the noise, what could eliminate cephalopods from the list. What could it be? A giant fish?

Its said to be "too big for a whale", but how big would this be? 31 meters? 100 meters?

Gojiraaaaaa!
 
Nest week i iwll be visiting Brighton and might go for a swim of you want sea monsters there i iwll be
 
Deep sea expeditions have found whale carcasses on the bottom of the sea and lots of amazing creatures, but unfortunately they've never encountered something really huge. As much as I'd love a sea monster myself, it's probably just wishful thinking.
 
CACTUSJACKmankin said:
I give far more weight to oceanic creatures than lake monsters. All of the top 10-20+ largest animal species on the planet live in the ocean. Lakes are too small to support 5,000 30+foot animals, which is a breeding population. While it is true that we know of a tiny fraction of the species on this planet the species that we don't know of are either in the ocean, in the rain forest, or very small. Large land or lake animals are not going to go unnoticed especially in reasonably populated areas. Bigfoot should have been shot by hunters or hit by a car by now. Loch Ness being supposedly reptilian should come up for air on a regular basis and fisherman should have accidentally hooked it by now. While I would still like to see a specimen of this bloop, there is a reasonable chance that a very large animal could have produced such a signal.
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Don't be a spoilsport, Jack. I'm really rooting for Champ. Whenever I go near Lake Champlain I take a good camera with a long lens. In keeping with cryptozoological tradition, I have loaded the camera with cheap grainy film, set the ISO wrong, and plan to forget to focus it when the vital moment strikes.
 
Correa Neto said:
How many recordings are avaliable?

A breeding population of bloops would make a lot of noise...

According to the CNN article, bloops are supposed to need an organ like "gas-filled sac" to make the noise, what could eliminate cephalopods from the list. What could it be? A giant fish?

Its said to be "too big for a whale", but how big would this be? 31 meters? 100 meters?
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Look up the coordinates in google earth. Whatever it was was recorded in the middle of the ocean, don't kid yourself into thinking that a breeding population of VERY large animals couldn't thrive in the deep. I mean we've only recently found a living giant squid. The ocean is big and deep it can hide some pretty large creatures. How large? I don't know. I doubt 100 meters (about 328 ft), maaaaybe 150 feet. An animal that large would probably feed on krill and plankton. It probably wouldn't be a carnivore, if it is it feeds on whales. It's hard to imagine what the maximum sized animal that the ocean could support because, if we assume it feeds on krill and plankton, we know that there is enough food available to support the dozen or so species of baleen whales and the largest 4-5 species of shark. So why could it not support an animal twice the size of a blue whale? I honestly don't know and like any other criptid I want hard evidence, but this thing is far more likely than nessie.
 
bruto said:
I'm really rooting for Champ. Whenever I go near Lake Champlain I take a good camera with a long lens. In keeping with cryptozoological tradition, I have loaded the camera with cheap grainy film, set the ISO wrong, and plan to forget to focus it when the vital moment strikes.
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Cool. I've heard steadying the camera and taking a sequence of shots scares monsters away so I might try and avoid that.
 
We've got to wonder why big old Bloop has been quiet for years then shouts "BLOOOOOOOOOP!!" once and then goes quiet again for years.

Maybe it sneezed?
 
wipeout said:
We've got to wonder why big old Bloop has been quiet for years then shouts "BLOOOOOOOOOP!!" once and then goes quiet again for years.

Maybe it sneezed?
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Amoung the more enlightened progressives, of whom I am a leading light, you would ce classed a "speciesist" for that thoughtless observation.:D

I wonder if they just sorta learned what to look for and if there might be more stuff recorded in storage somewhere.
 
From the wiki article:

Bloop is also a slang term for marijuana popularized in the San Francisco Bay Area.
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I'm not suggesting that the "huge marine animal" theory is a drug induced case of over-imagination but....
 
CACTUSJACKmankin said:
Look up the coordinates in google earth. Whatever it was was recorded in the middle of the ocean, don't kid yourself into thinking that a breeding population of VERY large animals couldn't thrive in the deep. I mean we've only recently found a living giant squid. The ocean is big and deep it can hide some pretty large creatures. How large? I don't know. I doubt 100 meters (about 328 ft), maaaaybe 150 feet. An animal that large would probably feed on krill and plankton. It probably wouldn't be a carnivore, if it is it feeds on whales. It's hard to imagine what the maximum sized animal that the ocean could support because, if we assume it feeds on krill and plankton, we know that there is enough food available to support the dozen or so species of baleen whales and the largest 4-5 species of shark. So why could it not support an animal twice the size of a blue whale? I honestly don't know and like any other criptid I want hard evidence, but this thing is far more likely than nessie.
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I am not denying the possibility that large yet undiscovered species may exist in the sea.

My point is that if the creatures in question (the species that make loud blooping noises) exist as a viable breeding population, more than a single record of the sound must exist... Wipeout made a similar case.

I also noticed the the cretures, according to the article, if the species exists, most likely are not some sort of cephalopod. They would most likely be some sort of non-cartilaginous fish. But I can not rule out the gojira hypothesis...:D

If a marine animal can reach say, twice the size of a blue whale, that's something I really don't know. There must be some mechanical and structural restrictions somewhere, but exactly where is this "somewhere", I don't have a clue.
 
Why can't this be some geological phenominon stuffed through 14 levels of reflection, refraction, convergence zones, etc?
 
jj said:
Why can't this be some geological phenominon stuffed through 14 levels of reflection, refraction, convergence zones, etc?
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I have to confess that that was my thought, too. The speeded up version doesn't sound like anything that's peculiar to life, at least to this confessed non-expert. It sounds, frankly, like the ground farted. And as it happens the location specified in the wiki link is pretty close to a known cold-seep area off of Argentina. Why isn't this some methane escaping or somesuch? I eagerly await new knowledge on this subject.
 
Correa Neto said:
I am not denying the possibility that large yet undiscovered species may exist in the sea.

My point is that if the creatures in question (the species that make loud blooping noises) exist as a viable breeding population, more than a single record of the sound must exist... Wipeout made a similar case.
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I apologize for misunderstanding you but nevertheless a breeding population of such a large creature could evade detection for example if it is a solitary creature a breeding population would cover a very wide area. Remember the ocean is vast and deep. Giant Squids weren't found in the wild until recently, and we knew they existed. My point is it is not at all unreasonable to suggest that there is a creature larger than any whale in the ocean that we have no record of other than a single sonic anomoly. And again this is much more of a reasonable suggestion than that of any lake monster. However, i still contend that a single sonic anomoly is not sufficient evidence to prove that such a creature exists.

BTW I do agree with the GOJIRA hypothesis. :)
 
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