A question about potential voter fraud

[pgwenthold]

No, I'm not accusing anyone of doing it, but I'm wondering. When I voted this morning, all I needed to do was to go to the proper precinct, give them my name, and then sign next to my name in the registry. OK.

Now, my wife is not able to vote because she is out of town. Suppose someone knew that. What's to stop them from walking ino our precinct, signing my wife's name, and then voting a second time?

 

[Upchurch]

No, I'm not accusing anyone of doing it, but I'm wondering. When I voted this morning, all I needed to do was to go to the proper precinct, give them my name, and then sign next to my name in the registry. OK.

Now, my wife is not able to vote because she is out of town. Suppose someone knew that. What's to stop them from walking ino our precinct, signing my wife's name, and then voting a second time?

In my polling place, they had a copy of my signature to compare against. Granted, it could be forged, but the likely hood of doing a convincing forgery on the fly is pretty low. Now, if they had a sample to practice with, there'd be more of a chance.

 

[TillEulenspiegel]

Here in Florida they require a picture ID regardless if You have the voters registration card. She should be able to vote by provisional ballot if she's still in state.

 

[pgwenthold]

Here in Florida they require a picture ID regardless if You have the voters registration card.

What happens in Florida if you don't have a picture ID? They can't prevent you from voting, can they? Would this have to be a provisional ballot with follow up to certify it?

If pushed, would the requirement for a photo ID hold up? I can't imagine it would.

 

[DavidJames]

What happens in Florida if you don't have a picture ID? They can't prevent you from voting, can they? Would this have to be a provisional ballot with follow up to certify it?

If pushed, would the requirement for a photo ID hold up? I can't imagine it would.

In CO a picture ID is required and if you are unable to provide one, you can submit a provisional ballot subject to verification later.

I can't imagine why requiring a photo ID would not hold up?

 

[Tmy]

I think you need Id if you registered by mail after 2003.

I walked in, told them my address, they looked me up onm the list, gave me a ballot, I checked out the same way on the other end, put my ballot thru teh scan machine. No ID or nothing. Sure you could commit fraud but think how easy youd be discoverd if the real person came in later. Small scale voter fraud is kinda dumb. A handful of votes shoudlnt make much a difference if you assume the fraud is benefiting both candidates it shoudl cancel out.

 

[pgwenthold]

In CO a picture ID is required and if you are unable to provide one, you can submit a provisional ballot subject to verification later.

I can't imagine why requiring a photo ID would not hold up?

Assuming that a photo ID costs money (a government issued one certainly does), it places a financial restriction on voting, for one.

 

[pgwenthold]

I think you need Id if you registered by mail after 2003.

I walked in, told them my address, they looked me up onm the list, gave me a ballot, I checked out the same way on the other end, put my ballot thru teh scan machine. No ID or nothing. Sure you could commit fraud but think how easy youd be discoverd if the real person came in later.

That's why I gave the specific example of my wife, who I know is not voting. If she or I shared that information with someone, they could vote in her place.

 

[TillEulenspiegel]

What happens in Florida if you don't have a picture ID?
You know I'm not sure, altho I believe You are able to cast a provisional ballot open to challange later..?

The First Thing We Do Is Kill All the Lawyers -- William Shakespeare. ( actually takin from a quote from James the 1st IIRC

 

[DavidJames]

Assuming that a photo ID costs money (a government issued one certainly does), it places a financial restriction on voting, for one.

Sure make me do research

I stand corrected, a photo ID is not required.
here is the list

* Colorado Drivers License
* Department of Revenue ID
* U.S. Passport
* Colorado or U.S. Employee ID card
* Pilots License
* US Military ID
* Copy of current utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck, or other government document that shows the name and address of the elector
* Medicare or Medicaid card
* A certified US Birth Certificate, or
* Certified Documentation of Naturalization

 

[pgwenthold]

Sure make me do research

I stand corrected, a photo ID is not required.
here is the list

* Colorado Drivers License
* Department of Revenue ID
* U.S. Passport
* Colorado or U.S. Employee ID card
* Pilots License
* US Military ID
* Copy of current utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck, or other government document that shows the name and address of the elector
* Medicare or Medicaid card
* A certified US Birth Certificate, or
* Certified Documentation of Naturalization

Yep, all you need to vote is proof that you are an american citizen over the age of 18.

OTOH, it still begs the question of how they know it is your birth certificate? If I have my wife's birth certificate, can I let someone use it?

 

[Tmy]

Yep, all you need to vote is proof that you are an american citizen over the age of 18.

OTOH, it still begs the question of how they know it is your birth certificate? If I have my wife's birth certificate, can I let someone use it?

You can also get fake ID's. I had one at 17.

Id worry more about mail-in and absentee fraud. If I voted 10x at my station, I think the pollsters would notice me leaving and returning over and over.

 

[BPSCG]

Now, my wife is not able to vote because she is out of town. Suppose someone knew that. What's to stop them from walking ino our precinct, signing my wife's name, and then voting a second time?

Actually, I did.