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A Gravy Paper: William Rodriguez, Escape Artist

Gravy

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A couple of weeks ago I said this would be ready in a day or two. It kept growing, and when it got to be around 120 pages, I thought it would be best to put it online. I've sent the link to William Rodriguez and invited his comments.

http://911stories.googlepages.com/home
 
Just read the first page, pretty damning stuff Mark! No wonder he scurried away from here so fast.
 
I can already hear the screams of "hit piece" from the troofer asylum. Expect to see all sorts of nastiness from them over this.
 
I've said this before, and I'll say it again: Being a hero on one day of your life doesn't give you free reign to be a profiteering jerkwad the rest of your life.

I've read the first page so far, will get to the rest later. Already there are things I've learnt that I never realised he actually said.
 
excellent job gravy. i'm reading it now. i'm going to read it slowly. i'm going to savor this. every time for the next few weeks that i feel a need for entertainment while eating, i suspect i'll have more than enough material at my disposal.

thanks much!
 
Very nice paper so far Gravy!

No wonder Willie wouldn't appear on Hardfire.
 
While I sure that it'd be nice to shake WR's hand before ripping his claims to bits, I'd rather meet and shake Jay Jonas' hand. Now that guy is a real hero, not just because of 9/11, but because he devoted his life to doing that sort of thing day in and day out.
 
I've read the opening and closing and bits of the middle, but I'm at work, and will have to finish it at home, later.

Great work. Nicely organized, great respectful tone to open, yet proper amount of outrage by the time you get to your conclusions.
 
Great paper, Gravy. I just started to read it and it seems to be very interesting and well written. Very informative. I wonder how the "other side" reacts to this, or do they choose to ignore it completely.
 
Well done Gravy. Very thorough as always.

Have you approached the View? I sure would like to see you take on Rodriguez and the LC boys.
 
I've been reading for the better part of the past two hours ~ wow. Nicely done, indeed.
 
I just got through the first page and many of the links. I can't help but feel a little bit overwhelmed by both Gravy's continued dedication to the (real)truth and by William's deceptions, exaggerations, changing accounts(I'm trying to stay away from the "L" word), poor research, and irresponsible actions and behavior.

A couple of the things that stood out.

- William's conversion to Islam(didn't know dat)
- embellishment of his heroics(again, didn't know that)
- his 180 on the elevator shaft fireball.

I'll eventually get to all of it, but the few pages I did read was enough for now...

As always, great work Binglybert.
 
It's one of the most impressive pieces of its type that I've seen, to be frank.
 
Don't get too excited, people, the kids over at LCF are already tearing this paper to pieces with their sharp minds and insight.....

P'Doh points out that Gravy is a...
balding tour guide knows far more than rodriguez

(quote deliberately cherry picked for......fun!)

Jackchit cuts to the chase.....

This guy needs to get laid...
can someone send him Ron weeeeks number :ph43r:

ooooooooooooooo that had to hurt

P'Doh again
So an argument from incredulity by a tour guide who wasnt involved with Rodriguez after 911 is supposed to convince us rodriguez is lying.
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=9574

Well that did it for me. Take down the website Gravy, these guys have all the answers.:rolleyes:
 
There is an amazing lack of substance in the replies; I have politely suggested that a detailed rebuttal is required of Mr. Rodriguez.
 
I'll give it about 24 hours maximum until P'doh signs up here again.

ETA:
Just by reading his posts over at LC, it's pretty obvious he has gone into panic mode. He does the same thing every time a paper is released that criticizes his "movement". You can practically see the sweat rolling down his neck every time a paper or film criticizing the "truth movement" is released.

Why? Well I'll answer that with another question. When was the last time you saw P'doh have a discussion based on anything other than personal attacks? I mean... I hear conspiracists say "WTC7 looked like a CD!" every day, but I've only ever heard personally directed comments from P'doh, in all honesty. His response to my 2 hour 31 minute video and 131 page text critiques of 9/11 Mysteries were "You haven't proven anything Doc". When I asked, "What is the strongest point of their film", I got "You've proven nothing" as a response.

I would love to see a moderated debate between a debunker and P'doh one day...
 
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Well done Gravy. Very thorough as always.

Have you approached the View? I sure would like to see you take on Rodriguez and the LC boys.

Dylan would probably back out if he knew he had to face Mark (again!) and get his ass handed to him on National television.

I sent the link to Elisabeth, but does anyone have an email address for the producers at The View?

BTW, is the show still slated for this Thursday? Their website says it is but PP has reported it was pushed back.
 
This paper presents a very serious problem for the conspiracists. Their 1# "truth" spouting hero has come in the line of fire, and now has a lot to answer for.
 

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