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86% in NYC believe MIHOP or LIHOP?

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[FONT=Verdana,Sans-Serif,Arial]Ok I did a serch and couldn't find it so sorry of this has been addressed. Anyway on a different board (political to boot) one of the posters keeps using this poll as "proof" most believe the CTers

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Over half of New Yorkers Believe US Leaders Had Foreknowledge of Impending 9-11 Attacks and “Consciously Failed” To Act

86% Call For New Probe of Unanswered Questions by Congress or New York’s Attorney General, New Zogby International Poll Reveals

On the eve of a Republican National Convention invoking 9/11 symbols, sound bytes and imagery, over half (69.3%) of New York City residents
and 61% of New York state citizens overall say that some of our leaders

"knew in advance that attacks were planned on or around September 11, 2001, and that they consciously failed to act,"

according to the poll conducted by Zogby International. The poll of New York residents was conducted from Tuesday August 24 through Thursday
August 26, 2004. Overall results have a margin of sampling error of +/-3.5.

The poll is the first of its kind conducted in America that surveys attitudes regarding US government complicity in the 9/11 tragedy.
Despite the acute legal and political implications of this accusation, nearly 30% of registered Republicans and over 38% of those who
described themselves as "very conservative" supported the claim.

The charge found very high support among adults under 30 (62.8%), African-Americans (62.5%), Hispanics (60.1%), Asians (59.4%), and "Born
Again" Evangelical Christians (47.9%).

Less than two in five (36%) believe that the 9/11 Commission had "answered all the important questions about what actually happened on
September 11th," and two in three (66%) New Yorkers (and 56.2% overall) called for another full investigation of the "still unanswered
questions" by Congress or Elliot Spitzer, New York's Attorney General. Self-identified "very liberal" New Yorkers supported a new inquiry by
a margin of three to one, but so did half (53%) of "very conservative" citizens across the state. The call for a deeper probe was especially
strong from Hispanics (75.6%), African-Americans (75.3%) citizens with income from $15-25K (74.3%), women (62%) and Evangelicals (59.9%).
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I can't even find the poll on Zogby's site so I was just wondering if anyone had heard of it. I should mention that folks on iwon forums can be petty and this could be a huge lie just to set up a strawman somehow. If anyone can help, it would be appreciated. Thanks.


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Nevermind he just posted the second half of the article.

W. David Kubiak, executive director of 911truth.org, the group that commissioned the poll, expressed genuine surprise that New Yorkers'
belief in the administration's complicity is as high or higher than that seen overseas. "We're familiar with high levels of 9/11 skepticism
abroad where there has been open debate of the evidence for US government complicity. On May 26th the Toronto Star reported a national poll
showing that 63% of Canadians are also convinced US leaders had 'prior knowledge' of the attacks yet declined to act. There was no US
coverage of this startling poll or the facts supporting the Canadians' conclusions, and there has been virtually no debate on the victim
families' scores of still unanswered questions. I think these numbers show that most New Yorkers are now fed up with the silence, and that
politicians trying to exploit 9/11 do so at their peril. The 9/11 case is not closed and New York's questions are not going away."

Nicholas Levis of NY911truth.org, an advisor on the poll, agrees, "The 9/11 Commission gave us a plenty of 'recommendations', but far more
plentiful were the discrepancies, gaps and omissions in their supposedly 'final' report. How can proposals based on such deficient findings
ever make us safe? We think these poll numbers are basically saying, 'Wait just a minute. What about the scores of still outstanding
questions?
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Bolding mine. Well this explains a lot. Sorry about that.
 
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Hey Redtail, why not cut/paste your original post in an email to Zogby directly? BTW, I agree with your bolding, why would a hopefully independent poll need an "advisor"?
 
points:

1. Commissioned by 911truth.org
2. Commissioning party determines the questions and the wording of said questions.
3. Look at the break down of who believes what.
4. Look at when the poll was done, where, and what was going on there at the time of the poll.

TAM

Edit. It says contact Zogby International for all inquiries on the questions and demographics of the responses...so maybe someone should, to see what EXACTLY was asked of the 808 New York State Residents involved in the poll on the eve of the REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION.
 
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If this is the same poll I looked at a while back, Zogby put out a qualifier for it. It was the scholars who drew the conclusions, not Zogby and they basicly declined to take any responsibility for thoser conclusions. The funniest thing the poll pointed out is that the younger and less educated you are, the more likely you are to be a CT.
 
My favorite line is "[FONT=georgia,new york,times,serif]W. David Kubiak, executive director of 911truth.org, the group that commissioned the poll, expressed genuine surprise that New Yorkers' belief in the administration's complicity is as high or higher than that seen overseas." Yeah, right. As if a special interest group would not only commission a poll but write the questions if they didn't have expectations about what the results would be.
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T.A.M. said:
points:

1. Commissioned by 911truth.org
2. Commissioning party determines the questions and the wording of said questions.
3. Look at the break down of who believes what.
4. Look at when the poll was done, where, and what was going on there at the time of the poll.

TAM

Edit. It says contact Zogby International for all inquiries on the questions and demographics of the responses...so maybe someone should, to see what EXACTLY was asked of the 808 New York State Residents involved in the poll on the eve of the REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION.
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Good Idea. I'll send them an email and see what I get.

ETA: Wait a minute. Didn't the NIST final report come out in 2005?
 
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