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35% Hydrogen Peroxide source needed

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Anyone here know of a reliable consumer-source for food-grade, 35% Hydrogen Peroxide? It's very important it is the ingestible type. I understand from this wacky website it can be tricky to obtain? Not sure if that's true. Obviously, I’m suspicious about any info that website offers. I'm looking for small quantities and would like to purchase direct from a manufacturer or high turn-around vendor. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
 
Serenity said:
Anyone here know of a reliable consumer-source for food-grade, 35% Hydrogen Peroxide? It's very important it is the ingestible type. I understand from this wacky website it can be tricky to obtain? Not sure if that's true. Obviously, I’m suspicious about any info that website offers. I'm looking for small quantities and would like to purchase direct from a manufacturer or high turn-around vendor. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
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I was doing some research into a case of spontaneous human combustion which may have been caused by hydrogen peroxide being spilled on cotton. It turns out 35% hydrogen perxoide is, in the U.S. anyway, used almost exlusively for industrial purposes, and is considered a hazardous material. I don't think you can buy or transport it without proper certification.
 
I was going to second that; not only is high-potency hydrogen peroxide a component of rocket fuels, but is currently the darling of naughty types who wish to manufacture their own explosives.

It would quite possibly be on some homeland security watchlist.
 
Wow, you guys are fast. Thanks!

I promise I’m not drinking it. I’ve read about high concentrations being used for rocket fuel. Believe me, I want nothing to do with rocket fuel. I’m considering using it as a sterilizing agent on produce. I read an interesting article on it here:

http://www.anapsid.org/vinegar.html

http://www.sciencenews.org/pages/sn_arc98/5_30_98/fob1.htm


ImaginalDisc said:
I was doing some research into a case of spontaneous human combustion which may have been caused by hydrogen peroxide being spilled on cotton. It turns out 35% hydrogen perxoide is, in the U.S. anyway, used almost exlusively for industrial purposes, and is considered a hazardous material. I don't think you can buy or transport it without proper certification.
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I was afraid of that. Pharmacies around here tend to have the 3% concentration that contain stabilizers declassifying them from food grade. For other reasons perhaps, too--not sure.
 
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Serenity said:
Wow, you guys are fast. Thanks!

I promise I’m not drinking it. I’ve read about high concentrations being used for rocket fuel. Believe me, I want nothing to do with rocket fuel. I’m considering using it as a sterilizing agent on produce. I read an interesting article on it here:

http://www.anapsid.org/vinegar.html

http://www.sciencenews.org/pages/sn_arc98/5_30_98/fob1.htm




I was afraid of that. Pharmacies around here tend to have the 3% concentration that contain stabilizers declassifying them from food grade. For other reasons perhaps, too--not sure.
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So the goal was to cook and sterilize the produce at the same time?
 
OK. All you need to do is bribe somebody at the chemistry department at your local college. Beer might work. Or sex. Laboratory grade chemicals are as good as it gets. Just make sure you get a whole sealed bottle. :)
 
ponderingturtle said:
So the goal was to cook and sterilize the produce at the same time?
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Hi PT,
I hope not. :eek:

I'd prefer to buy it in concentration and dilute it down to to 3% as needed. 35% appeared to be a standard concentration for the food-grade version. I would be interested in any concentration in-between, under the circumstances.
 
Serenity said:
Wow, you guys are fast. Thanks!

I promise I’m not drinking it. I’ve read about high concentrations being used for rocket fuel. Believe me, I want nothing to do with rocket fuel. I’m considering using it as a sterilizing agent on produce. I read an interesting article on it here:

http://www.anapsid.org/vinegar.html

http://www.sciencenews.org/pages/sn_arc98/5_30_98/fob1.htm




I was afraid of that. Pharmacies around here tend to have the 3% concentration that contain stabilizers declassifying them from food grade. For other reasons perhaps, too--not sure.
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The EPA's initial review of the commerical uses for hydrogen peroxide in concentrations lower than 10% include disinfection of cultery for food service, as it leaves no harmful residue, but I don't recall them mentioning its use for washing food. Hydrogen peroxide tends to react with a lot of organic chemicals, which is part of why it's a good disinfectant.

Also, if you do use any hydrogen peroxide at all for whatever purpose, make sure to clean up any spills promptly, and then wash the rag, napkin, mop or towel with water right away. Hrdyrogen peroxide has a significantly higher boiling point than water, and puddles of hydrogen pexoide increase slowly in concentration as a result. There's been some studies which show that even concentrations of hydrogen peroxide below 30% can cause explosions and/or fires when in contact with catalsysts, such as metals (including platinum and copper) and some textiles, including cotton, which a handy rag or mop might well be made of.
 
Ririon said:
OK. All you need to do is bribe somebody at the chemistry department at your local college. Beer might work. Or sex. Laboratory grade chemicals are as good as it gets. Just make sure you get a whole sealed bottle. :)
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I would if I knew someone. Are you the one I should be bribing? :D
 
Serenity said:
I would if I knew someone. Are you the one I should be bribing? :D
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Oh, hair bleaching produts contain about the highest concentration of hydrogen peroxide you can, as a regular joe, buy. Cosmeticians, or beauticians, or whatever the people who bleach hair for a living are called, can buy stuff that's up to 16% hydrogen peroxide, but officially, not everyone can buy it. Unofficially, I called a bunch a places here in Miami a few months ago and half of them were willing to sell me the stuff. Scary.
 
ImaginalDisc said:
The EPA's initial review of the commerical uses for hydrogen peroxide in concentrations lower than 10% include disinfection of cultery for food service, as it leaves no harmful residue, but I don't recall them mentioning its use for washing food. Hydrogen peroxide tends to react with a lot of organic chemicals, which is part of why it's a good disinfectant.

Also, if you do use any hydrogen peroxide at all for whatever purpose, make sure to clean up any spills promptly, and then wash the rag, napkin, mop or towel with water right away. Hrdyrogen peroxide has a significantly higher boiling point than water, and puddles of hydrogen pexoide increase slowly in concentration as a result. There's been some studies which show that even concentrations of hydrogen peroxide below 30% can cause explosions and/or fires when in contact with catalsysts, such as metals (including platinum and copper) and some textiles, including cotton, which a handy rag or mop might well be made of.
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Excellent safety points, especially about it evaporating into a higher concentration. Now I just need to find a reliable source. I'll continue to look around. I'm trying to avoid all the woo vendors.
 
ImaginalDisc said:
Oh, hair bleaching produts contain about the highest concentration of hydrogen peroxide you can, as a regular joe, buy. Cosmeticians, or beauticians, or whatever the people who bleach hair for a living are called, can buy stuff that's up to 16% hydrogen peroxide, but officially, not everyone can buy it. Unofficially, I called a bunch a places here in Miami a few months ago and half of them were willing to sell me the stuff. Scary.
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I didn't realize it was so dangerous even at the lower concentrations. If I can't find a vendor selling specifically food-grade formulas, then I'll probably just pass on it.
 
I have 50% and it's dirty cheap too. Unfortunately I'm a little too far.
 
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