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2020 General Election - 2nd "Issues" Poll

2020 General Election Poll - Most Significant Issues

  • Partisanship - Stopping the other team

    Votes: 7 15.9%

  • The Economy

    Votes: 14 31.8%

  • The Mueller Report

    Votes: 10 22.7%

  • Healthcare

    Votes: 31 70.5%

  • Immigration

    Votes: 12 27.3%

  • Shaking Up the Establishment/Status Quo

    Votes: 3 6.8%

  • Controlling the Supreme Court

    Votes: 17 38.6%

  • Bringing God Back to Government - Getting God Out of Government

    Votes: 4 9.1%

  • LGBTQ Rights and Treatment Under the Law

    Votes: 12 27.3%

  • Jobs

    Votes: 8 18.2%

  • Climate Change/Environment

    Votes: 37 84.1%

  • Education

    Votes: 14 31.8%

  • Electoral and Campaign Reform

    Votes: 25 56.8%

  • Other (Please Specify)

    Votes: 1 2.3%

  • On Planet X All We Care About is a Good Cherry Pie

    Votes: 2 4.5%
  • Total voters
    44
  • Poll closed .

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This is our second "pulse of the forum" poll. I've tried to keep the topics to just topics, so there's no "Throw that Orange Bum Out" or "Stop the Socialist Commies From Giving The Country to the UN". Just topics. Topics, it is hoped, that can be viewed in importance from either side of the current divide.

I've added a few topics per suggestions in the earlier poll, which can be found here, along with the discussion thread: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=335536

I'll endeavor to post a similar poll in a few months. Again, the idea being to see how much our own attitudes and concerns change over the course of the election season. This is a multiple choice poll. You can choose as many as concern you.

While the primary conversation is all about the Presidency, it is a "General" Election, so consider your attitudes across all races.

> Partisanship - Stopping the other "team"
> The Economy
> The Mueller Report
> Healthcare
> Immigration
> Shaking Up the Establishment/Status Quo
> Controlling the Supreme Court
> Bringing God Back to Government - Getting God Out of Government
> LGBTQ rights and treatment under the law
> Jobs
> Climate Change/Environment
> Education
> Electoral and Campaign Reform
> Other (please specify)
> On Planet X All We Care About Is Who Can Bake A Cherry Pie
 
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I'm still sticking with Supreme Court. It's the only permanent, long term change on a political level Trump's accomplished. And it, more so then Congress or the Executive Branch, is going to be the final say on practically all of the other issues.
 
Getting Election Results to reflect the actual choice of the voters.

I think that most problems in US politics stem from the fact that Politicians pick their voters and not the other way around.
There are many factors that disenfranchise voters, not just gerrymandering.

I think a lot of the current hyper-partisanship would disappear with a Ranked Choice Voting system: a non-binary voting system could do wonders to bridge the current divide. Of course it would take decades to undo the current mess, but it has to start with fairer elections.
 
I put the Mueller report as a choice, but that's not really accurate. I'm concerned with it only because f the fact that we are supposed to be a nation of laws, and if we fail to live up to the idea that the law is paramount, then we fail.

Maybe "Equality of Justice" would be a better idea that catches more of my worries, as well.
 
Hellbound said:
I put the Mueller report as a choice, but that's not really accurate. I'm concerned with it only because f the fact that we are supposed to be a nation of laws, and if we fail to live up to the idea that the law is paramount, then we fail.

Maybe "Equality of Justice" would be a better idea that catches more of my worries, as well.
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The topics are based on what's currently (at the time of the creation of the polls) trending. When I started the first poll the Mueller Report was topmost in the news. With the orange buffoon, he gets himself into such deep ca-ca on so many topics that those topics may fade. But I may change the wording to read "Mueller Investigation". As long as Donnie Johnny keeps flopping that sound byte out at his rallies and in his off-the-cuff ramblings to reporters, and particularly when Mueller testifies before Congress, there's a pretty good chance that "Mueller xxxxxxx" becomes a viable topic.

This week, "Presidential Racism" would be the lead topic... Next poll, if the jackass is doubling down on Miller-speak, that may become a viable topic.

The poll is written in such a way that someone in favor of limiting advances in LGBTQ rights can choose that topic as readily as someone interested in advancing the LGBTQ commie-inspired agenda.
 
> Defeat Trump
> Defeat Trump
> Defeat Trump
> Defeat Trump
> Defeat Trump
> Defeat Trump
> Defeat Trump
> Defeat Trump
> On Planet X defeating Trump is also the #1 priority as X-lings may be dumb, but they’re not Don Jr. dumb.
 
Most of the list is things I do care about to one extent or another, so I have not yet worked out how to narrow it down or how many to narrow it down to. And that was what I was thinking when I got near the bottom of the list and saw the one that the others, at least long-term, depend on. Without gerrymandering, most of these problems couldn't have gotten as bad as they are now, and if the gerrymandering is left alone, any improvements we get on any other issue will be targets for reversal the next time the bad guys get another "win" from the way the system is rigged in their favor despite nearly always getting less votes. (Sadly, it seems to have been forgotten now, even by the side that would benefit from fixing it.) But I haven't voted for just that one yet, because putting in only one checkmark doesn't feel right in a multi-vote format.

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Although I'm a lefty in general, I see 1½ issues in this list where I'd be opposed to what most lefties seem to want. First, on immigration, although I don't want people who try to get in here being treated the way they're being treated now (and just how did that treatment change from a few years ago anyway?), I also don't want immigration at anywhere near the rate that it's been during my lifetime. The USA's population has gone up A LOT during my lifetime and it really shouldn't go higher. Also, I'm an environmentalist who thinks environmentalists sometimes take it a bit too far or don't pay enough attention to the details and, in particular, the opposition to nuclear power as seen in the GND is just... not taking the facts or the issue seriously at all... really not even trying. It's nothing but religious fundamentalism, going against reality as hard as possible in favor of mythology.
 
Regnad Kcin said:
> Defeat Trump
> Defeat Trump
> Defeat Trump
> Defeat Trump
> Defeat Trump
> Defeat Trump
> Defeat Trump
> Defeat Trump
> On Planet X defeating Trump is also the #1 priority as X-lings may be dumb, but they’re not Don Jr. dumb.
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This. I care about nothing else. I want to see such a turn out of voters that Trump is humiliated on a world stage. "The hate keeps me warm".

Hat tip to "Red Dawn".
 
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Bump. The poll will be open for a while, but we're losing visibility with all the hubbub over Trump's not really racist at all behavior.
 
Interesting that two of the categories added per member suggestions are in the top vote-getters.

I also take it that there's a more appropriate pie than cherry. I'll switch that out for something more appropriate (or more amusing).
 
In issue polls outside of ISF, the number one issue is almost always "the economy" or "jobs".

I never like seeing that, because what does it mean? Are there "anti-job" candidates? They all seem to like jobs. What's up with that? It's the most important issue, and everyone agrees.

Of course, they disagree on how to achieve it, but that's a different story.
 
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In issue polls outside of ISF, the number one issue is almost always "the economy" or "jobs".

I never like seeing that, because what does it mean? Are there "anti-job" candidates? They all seem to like jobs. What's up with that? It's the most important issue, and everyone agrees.

Of course, they disagree on how to achieve it, but that's a different story.
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Well, yeah. The devil is in the detail, of course. The purpose of the poll is simply to see what priorities people place. One assumes everyone wants a job and wants a good economy. Do they rate those things higher than every other issue? I did sort of model the poll(s) after the traditional public polls during election year.
 
It's interesting to me that national debt and deficit, fiscal responsibility, or any related topic didn't make your list. You really don't hear people talk about it anymore.

I would have checked that box for sure.

As it is, I checked climate change/environment, education, and health care. Those are three things which the government can, and should, address. What concerns me about all of them is that the politicians who are talking about them at all seem to be offering simplistic solutions that will have a very negative impact on the issue that I noted was not there at all.
 
Meadmaker said:
It's interesting to me that national debt and deficit, fiscal responsibility, or any related topic didn't make your list. You really don't hear people talk about it anymore.

I would have checked that box for sure.
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CALLER: In 2019, there's gonna be a $1 trillion deficit. Trump doesn't really care about that. He's not really a fiscal conservative. We have to acknowledge that Trump has been cruelly used.

LIMBAUGH: Nobody is a fiscal conservative anymore. All this talk about concern for the deficit and the budget has been bogus for as long as it's been around.
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https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/17/politics/rush-limbaugh-debt-trump/index.html
 
Meadmaker said:
In issue polls outside of ISF, the number one issue is almost always "the economy" or "jobs".

I never like seeing that, because what does it mean? Are there "anti-job" candidates? They all seem to like jobs. What's up with that? It's the most important issue, and everyone agrees.

Of course, they disagree on how to achieve it, but that's a different story.
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Knee-jerk answer, they've been programmed since Clinton's "It's the economy, stupid."

Now if they were thinking more clearly, 'wages' might be a good answer.
 
Meadmaker said:
It's interesting to me that national debt and deficit, fiscal responsibility, or any related topic didn't make your list. You really don't hear people talk about it anymore.
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How does this surprise you? Deficits only matter when the GOP is trying to cut 'entitlements'. During a GOP administration, the deficit is behind a brain block for Republicans, cut taxes, pay for wars and military hardware, what deficit?
 
Bump. Plenty of time left because I leave these polls active for about a month, but we'd fallen to the second page and can't have that.

With the lead topics in the news the past few weeks, I'm thinking of including a generic "race relations" question in the next poll.
 
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