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20 People Shot Dead on Virginia Tech Campus

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MSNBC is reporting that 20 people have been killed on the Virginia Tech campus with almost 30 others being treated for a variety of injuries. They have one suspect in custody, but there may be another loose on campus.

Correct that: the college president is now saying that the shooter was killed.

What an awful situation. :(

The story in the link may not reflect current information, but I wanted to supply something.

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Oh goody, more school shootings.

If only the shooter wasn't dead. Then they could get a "crazed" authority figure (who is really an underground hire that mysteriously disappears later) to whack both his arms off. Televise it too, I want to cheer him on.

Note to whacked out violent loon jobs: if you hate your life that bad, just shoot yourself FIRST please. You help no one including yourself by killing people who had nothing to do w/your misery.
 
In a terrible irony, this story from January, 2006:
A bill that would have given college students and employees the right to carry handguns on campus died with nary a shot being fired in the General Assembly.

House Bill 1572 didn't get through the House Committee on Militia, Police and Public Safety. It died Monday in the subcommittee stage, the first of several hurdles bills must overcome before becoming laws...

Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."
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Yes, everyone at Virginia Tech is much safer today, I'm sure, now that guns were outlawed on campus. :(
 
It's stories like this that make me ask, "What the hell is wrong with our culture?"

It's posts like BPSCG's that make me say, "Oh yea. That."
 
delphi_ote said:
It's stories like this that make me ask, "What the hell is wrong with our culture?"

It's posts like BPSCG's that make me say, "Oh yea. That."
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I don't actually agree with you, but I still laughed when I read what you wrote.
 
BPSCG said:
In a terrible irony, this story from January, 2006:
Yes, everyone at Virginia Tech is much safer today, I'm sure, now that guns were outlawed on campus. :(
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What is your opinion on the bill?

Do you think that proponents of it will use this incident to renew a push for it? I can imagine some people saying that this incident wouldn't have been so bad if the students had been able to defend themselves.
 
Terrible news. I had no idea as the power has been off here this morning.

Not to jump to conclusions, but isn't this the anniversary of that Branch Davidson mess?
 
BPSCG said:
In a terrible irony, this story from January, 2006:
Yes, everyone at Virginia Tech is much safer today, I'm sure, now that guns were outlawed on campus. :(
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Way to post some gun control debate BS right after this. To say you have bad timing, no taste or class and made an unbelievably thoughtless and asinine post is a gross understatement.

PS to quote your own very recent words: "If you have a perfect solution for any social ill, let's hear it. Otherwise be done with the 'oh, it's not perfect, let's not use it' objection, okay?"

Nice hypocrisy.
 
fuelair said:
What should he have shame for - he posted the truth unless something in the story is untrue (like multiple students killed). What part of that isn't getting through to you.
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I see, so saying something is fine as long as it's the truth regardless of circumstance?

It would appear you're the one for whom things aren't getting through.
 
delphi_ote said:
It's stories like this that make me ask, "What the hell is wrong with our culture?"

It's posts like BPSCG's that make me say, "Oh yea. That."
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The Virginia legislature kills a bill that would allow people to defend themselves from a homicidal maniac, congratulates itself for having supposedly having made everyone safer when what it actually did was to make easier for the maniac to carry out his mission unimpeded, and you conclude that what's wrong with our culture is that I point up the terrible irony of the story.

Got it. :boggled:
 
fuelair said:
What should he have shame for - he posted the truth unless something in the story is untrue (like multiple students killed). What part of that isn't getting through to you.
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Oh its the TRUTH, is it? :rolleyes: Pathetic.

Hmm, blood bath with one or two shooters vs. blood bath with 50 potential shooters.

Really is it that hard?

I see someone that can't help themselves but turn a thread about a recent national tragedy, the facts of which we barely know, into a score for his politcal agenda. Sorry but, I think that's pretty sad.
 
bigred said:
Way to post some gun control debate BS right after this. To say you have bad timing, no taste or class and made an unbelievably thoughtless and asinine post is a gross understatement.

PS to quote your own very recent words: "If you have a perfect solution for any social ill, let's hear it. Otherwise be done with the 'oh, it's not perfect, let's not use it' objection, okay?"

Nice hypocrisy.
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Actually, the subject of gun control almost always comes up after incidents like this. It's inevitable.

What is unusual is to have the issue arise in a way that so directly impacted (or would have impacted it had it been passed) the campus that experienced this horrible event before it occurred. I would imagine that there will be some debating at least in Virginia about whether successful passage of the bill would have prevented this incident - or at least would have lessened the number of casualties.
 
Katana said:
What is your opinion on the bill?
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Killing the bill obviously didn't make anyone any safer, did it? Has anyone ever refrained from shooting someone because it was illegal to carry a gun?
Do you think that proponents of it will use this incident to renew a push for it?
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I have no idea. Virginia does issue concealed-carry permits, and yet it doesn't have any particular reputation as Dodge City.
I can imagine some people saying that this incident wouldn't have been so bad if the students had been able to defend themselves.
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Maybe, maybe not. I don't know how many people walk around the streets with concealed weapons on their persons, how many would have been carrying at Virginia Tech had they been allowed, how many of them would have been in a position to do anything even if they had been carrying. It may be a very small number; I just don't know.

What I do know is that forbidding students to have firearms on campus did nothing to save twenty dead students today.
 
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