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Been informed that our fire department will be escorting steel from WTC
next weekend. Our apparatus will be part of convoy for the steel column
as its transported by flat bed trailer from construction company to its
destination as part of a memorial
I touched upon this in another topic, but I think it deserves a topic of its own, so here it is.
One of the tiresome refrains of the third-string truthers who pass through here like meat through the sausage grinder is that a hydrocarbon fire can never make steel fail.
Now, we give them...
Requesting info regarding details of Twin Towers construction:
Nearly all of us know about the ferrous microspheres with oxygen content that Jones has been touting. One of my counterarguments against this is that one of many possible alternate sources for such spheres is oxyacetylene welding...
Has this structural engineer been debunked? / Astaneh-Asl "melting of girders"
...or could someone point me to one of Gravy's links, where this has been debunked?
"Dr. Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl is a professor of civil and environmental engineering at the University of California at Berkeley...
At this point we are already aware that many Truthers simply point to random anomalies without any regard for whether they support any plausible conspiracy.
I've thought of another example of this kind of behavior to add to the existing pile: the "debris ejected hundreds of feet" argument...
http://web.archive.org/web/20030704031804/http://www.americanrecycler.com/11wtc.html
I post the archive.org link to the 2003 version because some of the images are broken in this pages current incarnation at http://www.americanrecycler.com/11wtc.html
Read up, Truthers.
Assuming you want some...
I keep seeing CTers use the "fire can't melt steel" strawman, and I'm getting a little sick of it.
1 - If this supposed "molten steel" existed beneath the WTC, this actually does NOT support the thermite theory, since the molten metal by-product of a thermite/thermate reaction is IRON, not...
Does anyone know of any additional resources that have the amounts of steel recovered from the World Trade Center?
This link:
http://disaster.pandj.com/World%20Trade%20Center%20Forensic%20Recovery.pdf
gives the impression that all debris was processed at the Staten Island Land Fill except for...
Most of us have heard that the truther claim that sulfidation of steel happened because sulfur is a component in thermate. After beating it into their heads that sulfur was also omni-present in the towers, they move on to the second level of the argument.
They argue (as Jones does) that...
Can a get a couple of links for a few non-WTC examples please? Someone's arguing the whole "never happened before 9/11" thing, and I need something to counter it with.
http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=559117&category=&BCCode=&newsdate=1/31/2007
I thought this was interesting. I am sure that it will be rushed away to hide the thermite residue though:rolleyes:
Something I've been curious about, and maybe some of our conspiracy enthusiasts can help me out with.
In reading through the conspiracy theory subforum since it was broken off from the larger, I've seen much discussion about various aspects of the WTC collapse. Much discussion about the...
Hooray for critical thinking.
I decided to do a bit of an investigation on the controlled demolition by doing something simple: Find out what is the tallest building ever taken down by controlled demolition.
http://www.controlled-demolition.com/default.asp?reqLocId=4
The WTC 1 & 2 were 3.1...
This link leads you to a post on the Stormfront forum where a moderator have extracted the article from Matt Nuenke.
I haven't recieved my ex of the book by Jared Diamond yet, therefore I have refrained from responding to this post, awaiting further investigation.
I would appreciate to hear...
I'm being made to read a few chapter's of Jared Diamond's "Guns Germs and Steel" in a literature course (We're only reading the chapters that are relevant to animal sacrifice.)
Anyone care to share their opinions on Diamond or this book? Just curious to see what other people think.
Do you the way to remove the odour of garlic from your hands? Use the back of your stainless steel knife and scap your hands.
This is a common trick.
But look what I read in Science Daily! :eek:
Read the whole article
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/05/050509170837.htm
This...
The International Iron and Steel institute claims that Henry Bessemer invented steel in 1856. However, Samuel Fox is claimed to have invented the steel-ribbed umbrella and have founded the English Steels Company in 1852. And John Deere came up with a design for a steel plough blade in 1837...
What do I base this evidence on? My super strong grip. Yet I am like the proverbial 97# weakling when it comes to trying to tear open some clear plastic wrapper that you might find wrapped around collector cards, or around certain candy or various other products.
It will slightly stretch, but...
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