norad

I hate it when people pretend to be experts, they can easily make up all manor of crap and so you have to go to great lengths to find out exactly why they're wrong. A truther (yea, the same one..) is now making claims about how transponders being turned off really isn't that big a deal. I...

According the official conspiracy theory (OVT), FAA New York stopped the fighters from Otis in protecting New York after 09:03. After the first crash (WTC 1), NEADS still wanted to head the fighters over New York: Commander Wants Fighters Sent to New York - In Rome, New York, NEADS has just...

According to the NORAD-Tapes, around 10:07 there were still "exercise inputs" coming into Cheyenne Mountain, NORAD’s operations center. How could it be, when according the official conspiracy theory, all exercises were stopped after the second crash around 09:03? What kind of inputs, Speaker...

Read about this interesting incident today, and it has some bearing on the policies and actions of NORAD regarding threats from outside the continent. A bomb threat aboard a Cathay Pacific flight bound for Vancouver (YVR) from Hong Kong (HKG) resulted in an intercept by CF18's from Comox, BC...

Is following statement right? Larry Arnold, Commanding general of NORAD's Continental Region regarding the hijacked planes on 9/11: I have the authority in case of an emergency to declare a target hostile and shoot it down under emergency condition. Filson, 2003, S. 75 On the one hand side...

I was searching for similar threads, but didn’t find any. If the question in the thread title was answered already, just point me to the corresponding thread, please. Thanks! Some background assumptions: (i) The flight path of AA 1 is well established by the RADES radar data. (ii) On 9/11...

(For people unfamiliar with defense procurement, 8 years to deliver a system like this is not unusual.) ”[BCS] enables our warfighters in the air defense sectors to monitor the airspace over the United States, which during 9/11 was a big gap in our capability. This system is the long-term...

Hi there, I know, the wargames stuff has been beaten to death here, and gumboot has done valuable work on this. However, I´m currently doing some private work on wargames before 9/11. Since it may be useful for some JREFers, I´ll share it here, to be dealt with in detail in the near future...

Was reading through John Farmer's , counsel to 911 Commission, new book on FAA/NORAD activities on 911 - in particular when did FAA inform Norad of hijackings. Our friend, CHEAP SHOT, is mentioned in several places as military liason at Boston ATC. Learned several new things 1) United...

Okay. The first I ever heard of a conspiracy theory on 9-11 was the book by David Icke. Many things are ridiculous, but one isn't and its bothered me since. Either Norad was totally incompetant, not being able to get planes up or near their targets two hours after it was known airplanes had been...

Was in bookstore tonight - saw this new book TOUCHING HISTORY by Lynn Spencer, an airline pilots, who interviewed pilots, FAA officials, NEADS personnel and Air Guard pilots tasked with defending US airspace on 9/11 Fascinating and goes into detail (including mentioning United 23 - often...

Quick question I have about Military Notification with regard to UA93: At 09:32am: A radio transmission came from United 93, which was picked up by Cleveland Center as saying: By 09:34am: Word of the hijacking had reached FAA headquarters. At 09:39am: another transmission was picked...

Story: How could this have happened? Why didn't it get shot down by the thousands of hidden missile batteries, why didn't NORAD scramble fighter jets, was there a stand-down order? How did it evede the entire US military?

Hi folks, I've finished the first step in writing my final NORAD/FAA paper titled "Air War". At this stage I have covered everything up to the sequence of events on the day itself, which I'm still not sure how to actually present. Categories covered are: THE ELEMENTS IN THE SYSTEM -The...

I'm after a comprehensive list of ever variation of a conspiracy theory relating to either the FAA or NORAD (collectively "the Air Defense System") and how they responded to the 9/11 attacks. Thus far I have the following variations: New Intercept Protocols In the months prior to 9/11 new...

And what was that plane's flight path? Thanks in advance for the answer!

This article appears to be an old one, but I haven't seen it until just the other day after James B. at SLC posted a troofer site that specifically accuses Canadian Lt. General Eric Findley of being one of the masterminds behind 9/11 and I went looking for real information on General Findley...

Dylan got ahold of 120 hours of NORAD tapes and is seeding it now. It should be "public" today. It seems David Ray Griffin has ALREADY asserted they are fabricated. Yes, 120 hours. Fabricated. Someone asks Avery "who's going to listen to 120 hours of audio?" to which he responds, "Our...

There's been a number of conversations in threads recently relating to NORAD and the events of 9/11. I'd like to invite anyone who has suspicious, doubts, concerns, or allegations about NORAD's activities on 9/11 to discuss them here with me, one topic at a time. That means no hopping about...

Maybe I am going through a mental breakdown here because Canada had a positive temperature yesterday and it was actually interesting to look outside once again. I was just listening to the NORAD tapes it and was hoping someone can verify this for me. A lot of 9/11 Deniers say that they were...

I thought about making one thread where people can dump in what they think happened on 9/11. Because, you know, since the 9/11 Commission Report is flawed... and the NIST report is lacking in a couple subjects, as we now know... a thread that explain some things by citing sources would be...

here is an interesting little clip from the CBC archives. It is an interview with the highest ranking NORAD official in the Cheyenne Mountain base on 9/11, Major General Rick Findley (Canadian). http://archives.cbc.ca/IDC-1-71-1552-10476/conflict_war/norad/ Besides getting to listen to one of...

CTers often cite the series of questions presented by families of 9/11 victims, which were to be used as a roadmap by the 9/11 Commission. CTers claim that over half of these questions were never answered, and use this as a basis for dismissing the commission as a joke. Until recently I wasn't...

One of the corner stones of 911 conspiracy theories is the lack of interception by NORAD of the offending aircraft. Rather than seeing this organiastion as a group of super trained miltary personal, maybe the answer is both a lot simpiler and darker.:mad: NORAD does not have a clue how to...

As many of you know, I have created a NORAD document which, I humbly feel, pretty much buries any "NORAD stand down" argument. However, the document is somewhat out of date and fails to make some important points. It also doesn't use the resources effectively (listing links at the end instead...

Itunes has many audio clips of FDNY and 911 calls on 9/11/01. The only clips of ATC, NORAD and FAA only seem to be available with in context of news programs but not independantly. Do you know where I may find them if available?

Yeah, I've been one of the head arguers in a facebook group with a 9/11 revisionist, and I've ended up in a bit of a bind. I'm wondering if someone here can either tell me what I can't find, or tell me that he's jumping the gun or something...

So I am debating with Skeptosis over at Conspiracy Smasher, and we get on the topic of FEMA NORAD and Mineta...here is the problem. According to the released FEMA/NORAD Recordings, noone became officially aware that AA77 was officially "lost" until 9:34 EDT. But Mineta testified that he...

The following is a timeline of the NORAD response to the hijackings on 9/11, as based on the transcripts from over 30 hours of recordings inside the NORAD command centre. All times are in Eastern Daylight Time 0759 AA11 departs Logan International Airport 0813 AA11 is hijacked. Short after...

I was arguing with an Alex Jones zealot today. She was at this anti-war rally, trying to give away t-shirts which she written "9-11 is an inside job" on with magic markers. (It is somewhat heartening that nobody was taking her up on her offer...) Anyway, she threw a bunch of the most common CT...