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logical fallacies

  1. M

    When is pointing out that two people behave similarly a tu quoque?

    There is a bit of a derail occurring in this thread starting at this post. Stripping away all the ponderous prose--some of which is unfortunately mine, I think the argument can be summarized in the following dialogue: Person A: Trump voters didn't vote for Clinton do to her being untrustworthy...
  2. arthwollipot

    Bias or Opinion?

    In another thread (which I have now put on Ignore for the sake of my blood pressure) I was recently accused of bias. In my estimation, I was expressing an opinion on the subject of the thread, and I was supporting my opinion and explaining my reasoning by using analogies. But according to one...
  3. B

    Merged Things that Bubba finds interesting or newsworthy

    Example: "Raiders of the Lost Ark" Which of the world's known governments (did or would do) today or historically is/was likely to be sending, or have sent, their forces out across the world looking for old stuff whether on land (like antartica) or underwater? Such as govt forces looking...
  4. catsmate

    The Book of Bad Arguments

    The Book of Bad Arguments A must read for everyone.
  5. J

    Just Google It

    When discussing the paranormal, pseudoscience, or other forms of woo, I naturally ask for people's sources; I ask for hard, credible evidence. On multiple occasions I get variations of this response: "Just Google it!" Or "Look it up yourself" or "Do your own research." Has anyone else run...
  6. R

    Is the "naturalistic fallacy" a fallacy?

    Obviously there are natural things that are very dangerous, and manufactured things that are benign, but it still seems to me that the odds are strongly in favour of natural source things being safer than non-natural. I mean, if you were to go out into the natural environment and randomly pick...
  7. RSLancastr

    What Logical Fallacy Is This?

    "Sylvia Browne is at the top of the "psychic game", so if I can prove her to be a fraud, all of the other psychics are sure to be frauds as well." I recently saw someone making this assertion about VanPraagh.
  8. H

    false dilemma ?

    Is this false dilemma or some other logical fallacy ? Person B seems to be implicitly saying you would be good person if you don't give me advice or tell me to change and you will be bad if you tell me to change. Here it seems to me that the 3rd person thinks his son will be good guy if he...
  9. Sabretooth

    Cracked Article: Logical Fallacies

    I figured I'd put this thread in 9/11-sub as the articles mentions it specifically several times. Though Cracked.com is better known for it's list-based humor, this article is a pretty good summation of why CTer's can't get their head out of their arse...
  10. Barber Shop

    People shouting 'fallacy' when there is no fallacy

    I have noticed that people occasionally accuse others of using fallacies even when there was no real fallacy. I was interested in what others had to say about their experiences with this, as well as what particular faux fallacies are commonly 'spotted'. The one I see the most is the accusation...
  11. Crocoshark

    Where's the line between argument from ignorance and argument from evidence?

    Newbie critique & the line between argument from ignorance & argument from evidence? Hi, I'm new here. :) I'm a sort-of skeptic, a skeptical believer, a semi-skeptic, not quite on your bandwagon but supportive of your cause. I have a soft spot for SOME paranormal claims but wouldn't actually...
  12. C

    Is there a name for this fallacy?

    The very first time I remember being offended by the poor logic of a peer, I was in the fifth grade. A group of about a dozen boy's and girls were playing on a playground fixture with a large slide, somebody was doing some kind of roughhousing just in time to be caught by one of the adults...
  13. jayman

    Critical Thinking 101: UPDATED!

    Hey, everyone! I have made adjustments to my "Critical Thinking 101" post. This is to help people learn the basics of critical thinking and skepticism. I would like any and all feedback on the adjustments I made and if anyone has suggestions to add something I missed or anything at all, I...
  14. GreedyAlgorithm

    When is ad hom a fallacy?

    JetLeg brings up the question of whether or not learning an arguer was drunk at the time he made his argument should lead us to believe the argument is less likely to be true in this thread. There's something intuitively compelling about the claim that it should, and something else compelling...
  15. 1337m4n

    Correcting Truthers on logical fallacies

    I'd like to take a moment to correct Truthers on the meanings of some logical fallacies that they just don't seem to understand. Ad Hominem WHAT IT IS: WHAT IT ISN'T: An insult. I can call you "stupid"; that's not an ad-hominem. It's just a barb. I can even say "You are wrong, therefore you...
  16. M

    Help with Logical Fallacies

    Hey guys, I am still trying to hone my skills at the art of argument. But of course I am finding that it can be a lot more difficult then it looks. (at least for me) So I thought I would post an example or two and maybe you could help point out the fallacies (if there are any) and why they are...
  17. A

    Debate ethics: Is there ever a valid time to use logical fallacies?

    Suppose you are engaged in a debate with one, or more, people. It is a non-adjudicated debate and there may, or may not, be an audience of one, or more, third-parties. You have presented evidence supporting your side of the debate and you have shown their evidence to be in question as well as...
  18. DullJake

    List of Common Fallacies by Creationists

    I put together a little list of fallacies that Intelligent design guys and creationists usually make. I also have a little cartoon (it’s a four parter, and it’s published twice a week) that also pokes fun at them. You can visit my post here for the cartoon at brainode.com The list is: 1...
  19. D

    Post hoc fallacy

    I'm writing up the "post hoc ergo propter hoc" fallacy on the JREF wiki at this link Rather than construct made-up examples, I'd like to include real examples from arguments or propositions made here on the forum or elsewhere that we can link to. Can anyone suggest such examples? :D
  20. D

    Logical Fallacies

    I thought this was the best area to post this.. What logical fallacy is it when someone argues for instance... "When you get older you will understand what Im saying." Or "When you have children you will know that miracle can only happen if god exists." Or "When you've been though what I...
  21. J

    Logical Fallacies and The Bible

    Ye list of logical fallacies that I know. As this thread is for a learning experience please input the fallacies I've left out if any. The goal is to have a complete list of the fallacies and to expose as many logical fallacies as we can that the bible writers are guilty of. ad hominem: Latin...
  22. P

    The Informal Logical Fallacies

    This is posted for reference. You may add posts that contain other examples of logical fallacies, however, off-topic posts or posts disputing the validity of these examples will be deleted. Corrections are welcome. ========================== Informal Logical Fallacies ad hominem or “To the...

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