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Well, the truthers are in a reverie about having found what they think is a legitimate NY firefighter named Rudy Dent who was at Ground Zero on 9/11 and is on their side. But instead of providing an eyewitness account of explosives going off or fire commanders pretending the building was...

I was at the Staten Island Botanical Garden today, and discovered a nice-sized museum/memorial to 9-11. Never knew about it before. Anyways, I went in there, and asked the host..who was a FDNY firefighter: "what do you think about the folks who say there were bombs in the towers?" he said...

I saw a few Youtube clips of Alex Jones claiming he never claimed the FDNY of being 'in on it'-but insisting they 'got an order' to implode Building 7. Jones did claim on his website just he thought at the very least the FDNY was guilty of manslaughter. I have personally encountered Truthers...

Since it has almost been 9 years since 9/11, there are still a lot of misconceptions floating around about fires and firefighting. So to help clarify and answer any questions people may have, I started this thread. I also ask that any other posters with firefighting experience to join in as well.

I was looking through the FDNY Firehouse 10 site and saw their "unofficial" patch. It shows both towers of the WTC ablaze. Bear in mind, this patch was first adopted way back in 1984. So truthers, is this the smoking gun proof that the FDNY is in on it?

This plea by Ace from the comments on this post on the Screw Loose Change blog was too good not to share.

As we all know, it has proven very difficult for Truthers to come up with a plausible inside job scenario that doesn't in some way implicate the FDNY. And cunning devils they are, Truthers are usually very careful to avoid making any accusations (see: Jason Bermas and the "Jedi Mind Trick")...

http://firefightersfor911truth.org/ From what I can tell, there are no actual firefighters affiliated with the site. Anyone got any info on this?

Why do the “truthers” treat the Arlington County Fire Department so differently than the FDNY? In several threads recently and in the Roberts/Gage Hardfire debate, “truthers” said that the initial statements of the FDNY were 100% accurate and the only conclusion was that the WTC was destroyed...

A quick examination of Truthers implicating the FDNY with the murder of 2,700 people in New York City. It includes Alex Jones, Jason Bermas, and Graeme MacQueen. iOkEhaytW9A

I've looked on YouTube and Googlevideo for the infamous footage of Bermas claiming the FDNY were "paid-off", and all I could find is "9/11 Deniers Speak". However, that video cuts him off at the last syllable and creates a garbled effect. Anyone know where to find clear video of Bermas saying that?

http://cms.firehouse.com/content/article/article.jsp?id=58930&sectionId=46 Previous is from FIREHOUSE.COM article outlining one departments problems with digital radio leading to fatal incident. Many "twofers" and some others blame former mayor Rudolph Guiliani for the communications problems...

Thread topic should be 9/11 FDNY involvement. I will ask the mods to fix it. OK. You have made a claim that it is a crazy idea to suggest that an inside job required the knowledge or complicity of firefighters. Can you back that claim up? Can you suggest a plausible scenario for an inside job...

In another thread Dictator Cheney, in an attempt to show that firefighters know there were bombs in the towers, wrote: So this thread is for him or any other truther to list the names of firefighters on the scene who believe it was bombs that caused the towers to collapse and killed hundreds...

I put together a short video about WTC 7 which includes the letter by Dan Nigro that appears on http://911guide.googlepages.com/danielnigro, and with the special voiceover work of JREF's own 'Boloboffin'. ysrkA9Edo-0 Any comments or critiques will help me in the future so all are welcome.

:hb: I so **** hate that "two isolated pockets of fire" argument. How completly ignorant does one have to be to claim there were only two pockets of fire? I have no words... I once saw a dramatic airial picture on this forum of the North Tower, looking at the south and west side, showing the...

Since there have been many talks of the 9/11 first responder health issues in this subforum, I thought this would be the right place to post this. Here is the new 64-page report, a comprehensive six-year assessment of the physical and psychological effects on active and retired FDNY members...

As we all know, many 9/11 first responders are suffering from a variety of respiratory and other ailments due to prolonged exposure to the toxic gunk given off by working at ground zero for an extended period of time. The FDNY defines prolonged exposure to these toxins as working at ground zero...

I know this has been discussed before, but I want to ATTEMPT to get a CF stance on whether or not the firefighters were in on it. If you ask a CF what they think, they will simply cry out "We never said they were in on it!". This of course is contradictory to other claims that they make. For...

Considering the fact that Rosie upped the ante and came right out and accused the FDNY of complicity in 9/11 I thought her lies deserved a separate thread. From her blog entry of March 15: at 5 30 pm 9 11 2001 wtc7 collapsed for the third time in history fire brought down a steel building...

Check out this new site mentioned at SCREW LOOSE CHANGE - has everything in one location. List of all the transcripts from Fire, EMS at the scene, links to pictures, audiofiles, etc. Freaking amazing! http://jay-911.blogspot.com/

Sometimes I think that debating truthers at all is counterproductive. On the other hand, sometimes I can't help myself. I'm engaged in an online debate with one, and I mentioned that FDNY members would be none too pleased to be accused of being part of a cover-up that murdered some of their...

Well he is kind of scary, being ex-special forces and all... Posted by Dylan at the LCF. http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=4696 Although I really have to ask, do these people really think that people who run into burning buldings for a living are such wusses...

If there is one thing that REALLY annoys me about how twoofers debate it's the way they simply ignore questions and then act as if all their bases are covered. This is especially easy for them to do in a massive thread with dozens of people posting at once. So I'd like to take this opportunity...

the much beloved quote by Larry Silverstein states that he suggested that maybe the best thing to do with firefighting in wtc 7 is to "pull it". but more importantly, he then goes on to say "and THEY made the decision to pull". they....being the FDNY if wtc 7 was purpusefully...

Hi all, back after a couple of days on travel, and I see we're still riled up with the Twin Trolls 28th Puppet and (Grand?) Wizard. Not my cup of tea. Let me ask something more serious. Over the last two days I spoke with members of emergency reponse personnel at a few federal facilities...

Slightly off topic - Below is invitiation I received about seminar in New Jersey Many FDNY personalities will be attending who were involved with 9/11 (Capt Fuentes was buried in debris from WTC collapse and severly injured), Vincent Dunn is author of Collapse of Buurning Buildings - the bible...

Itunes has many audio clips of FDNY and 911 calls on 9/11/01. The only clips of ATC, NORAD and FAA only seem to be available with in context of news programs but not independantly. Do you know where I may find them if available?

Seems Craig Bartmer would feel disrespected by Gravy and those deny 9/11 Truth and not by those who ask for the truth. Craig Bartmer Interview Notice he talks about the "fear" people have of coming forward. What would they have to fear??? Losing their careers. They way they support their...

How did they know they where extra devices? Did they see them? How did they know they were bombs? There was a lot of confussion on 9/11. When the federal building in Oklahoma was bombed, there were a lot of reports of a 2nd, 3rd even a 4th device discovered. It's just how people react when...