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For a long time, AE911Truth has "officially" been silent, or agnostic, about the Pentagon event. At some point, some years ago, Richard Gage apparently voiced criticism of no-planers, but was compelled to row back and adopt the "I don't look, I don't see, I don't want to know" position. In the...

We all know the Great Schisms within Trutherdom: The Unholy Trinity of WTC destruction theories: Thermite - Nukes - DEW LIHOP - MIHOP I recently reported on the recent and developing schism over the "28 pages" issue (which may be the last LIHOP hurray) And then there is the Great Schism over...

My colleague Tom Lusch has completed a presentation explaining the disappearance of AAL77 in the ZID airspace. It is a little technical, but not so bad that the layperson should not be able to digest it. I suspect even CPT'N Bob could grasp it. Here is a summary which suggests a few revisions...

Hi all. So as some of you know, around September last year I began a single blog post to list and organise all the available evidence from 9/11 regarding the Pentagon incident into a single, easy to follow list of information for people to work through. The aim, of course, was to provide as...

I have expressed for many years now that I am a truther. I am quite proud to be a truther and find it particularly disheartening to have that term associated with some of the crazy that is 9/11. A truther is someone who simply does not subscribe to the government's explanation or version of...

Dr. Frank Legge and David Chandler have completed an Addendum to their September, 2011 paper, "The Pentagon Attack on 9/11: A Refutation of the Pentagon Flyover Hypothesis Based on Analysis of the Flight Path". The Addendum appears in the January 8, 2012 edition of the Foreign Policy Journal...

An Interview from the National Geographic documentary Witness D.C. 9/11 with Porter Goss on the morning of 9/11 is being hailed as possible evidence of the CIT/P4T Pentagon 'fly-over' over at P4T. 39t9RJh9yW4 The video captures the sound of an 'explosion', followed by a jet flying low...

The issue of the security cameras around the Pentagon has come up again in another thread with a poster repeating and linking P4T nonsense. As normal, when challenged on his information he simply posted a photograph. But in the real world, you just can't post a photograph, jump up-and-down...

A friend sent me a documentary about flight 11 recently. I don't know the actual full title though, the intro and end credits are missing. Does anyone have this documentary or remember it? It really stands out because the actor playing Atta looks so much like him it's creepy! I wonder who...

Sheesh ... Cpt'n Bob and friends Pilots for Truth have solved 9/11 (again). I think I've about spent enough time on their foolishness. Nothing new, just the same old stuff we have addressed in other threads. But I figured I'd start a thread just in case anyone wanted to respond. The...

I've been trying to get some of my files moved up to MegaUploads so that others can access them. As many of you know, I have a thing for using the best quality available so that means large file sizes. Citgo Security Video Early on I was able to get the original VHS tape that the FBI sent to...

9/11gate, "AA77" FDR numerology That is the latest hypothesis coming from our friends at P4T. This is primarily based on Warrens RO coordinate outputs (yes, the same one's they claimed were invalid a week ago) for the end of flight 11 (LAX to IAD) and beginning of flight 12 (IAD to LAX which...

According to a guy on this forum he proposes that the Boeing 757 should have caused more damage to the Pentagon. Not so different to what you might have heard before you say? Its basically just the 'hole too small' argument, right? Well not quite this one is a bit different. He also isn't...

Pentagon eyewitness' wouldn't recognise a B757 or American Airlines jet I'm arguing with someone right now that claims a plane hit the Pentagon but not a AA Boeing 757. He claims eyewitness' would not able to identify if it was an American Airlines jet or a Boeing 757 at those speeds...

Miles Kara has posted some audio and other details for the Vigilant Guardian Exercise on his 9/11 blog. This exercise highlights just how much time it took to develop a response. That exercise ended with an exploded plane on the runway. I guess a link to the article would help...

Flight AA77 on 9/11: New FDR Analysis Supports the Official Flight Path Leading to Impact with the Pentagon Warren's paper is hot off the press. Worth a review. A brief look-over compares with the analysis and conclusions reached by folks here at JREF.

On french-speaking forums dealing with 9/11, I made a compilation of about 20 questions to ask about the plane which went into the Pentagon. Here they are: You are free to copy them, paste them, copy and paste, add some questions, remove some of them, rephrase them, adapt them to the hardcore...

Need a wee bit of help. Can someone kindly direct me to the photo of aircraft debris recovered on 9/11 that includes portions of the aircraft registration number, which number was then compared to a pre 9/11 photo of the plane? I have seen it on this forum. I am certain that it was AA77, but...

Alright, hear me out: Some truthers claim the DNA evidence of the victims of flight 77 is genuine, but since it had to be shipped to an off-site location, and there wasn't a camera following the evidence from the Pentagon to the lab, it really could have come from anywhere. At the same time...

As many on JREF are aware, there was a dominate theory at one point that AAL77 was landed at some point after being lost by ZID radar around 12:57 and its reappearance over Charleston, WV at around 9:05. I will be doing another field trip to tie up some loose ends next month, starting at the...

Oh show us the damn plane already. Every piece that was discovered and accounted. This is so stupid. Split from: 8 out of 8 at Citgo station.

.. says that flight 77 had a different flight path ? Whats the source on this one.. can not find it!:boggled:

Now we have a variation on a theme started in this thread. A twoofer posted this story (from Len Hart (who he?)) today at a forum I visit: http://existentialistcowboy.blogspot.com/2009/06/american-airlines-exposes-bushs-big-lie.html For a start, both flights DO appear on the BTS records...

:cool::mad:This crazy Truther tried to tell me that George W. Bush lied about seeing the first plane hit the North Tower, so I watched this video of President Bush, three months after September 11th, 2001, telling an audience that he saw the first plane fly into one of the twin towers while he...

I decided to drop by the CIT home to see if they have made any progress yet. Aldo has just presented an exhaustive eyewitness list by categories of observations. Even in their list, one major omission...no fly-over witness category. CIT Eyewitness List Oh my, how could this have happened? I...

The discussion about the lightpoles in this thread, was knocked over (pun intended) to AAH. SPreston said: And also: Sooo... what knocked over the lightpoles, if not AA77?

When discussing the witnesses proclaimed by CIT as proving a "NOC" flight path, most people mention the unreliability of memory and the way leading questions could bias memory. Even CIT acknowledges that memory can be inaccurate in the details, as they recently said: Of course, they don't...

Complete with wannabe-star photos and everything... http://www.ocweekly.com/features/features/do-you-believe-a-passenger-jet-hit-the-pentagon-on-911-these-men-say-youve-been-pentaconned/29110/ My favorite part: But... they still got their own article. Moving along...

After asking at least a few hundred Truthers to source where the Pentagon had 80 cameras, I found one who referred to Jacqueline Maguire, part of the FBI's Counter Terrorism Division. I investigoogled and found a 9/11 Research page which only speaks of her in passing...

I'm starting this thread to try and salvage some rational discussion from the thread "The Final Word : Flight 77 Did Not Hit The Pentagon FDR proves it" that just got sent to AAH. I'm doing this because I feel TC329's original post raised a new claim that hasn't been discussed in detail here...