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2nd amendment issues

  1. Ranb

    The 2nd Amendment solution to gun violence

    The Second Amendment solution to gun violence https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/07/opinions/second-amendment-solution-to-gun-violence-yang/index.html Interesting article, but he passes off opinion as fact. So even honorably discharged veterans are not to be trusted to own firearms. There is much...
  2. arthwollipot

    Is a well-regulated Militia still necessary for the security of a free State?

    Is a well-regulated Militia still necessary for the security of a free State? I can see that it once may have been. Especially in the earlier days of the United States, where the reach of government may have been limited and anti-British attitudes high, and before the country had a large...
  3. Trakar

    2nd Amendment: the Founders on Gun Control

    While doing a bit of light reading this weekend, I ran across this article which seemed both timely and interesting. As a preface, as many of you know I am quite Progressive in my public policy preferences. However, there are many areas where I disagree with a great many American Progressives...
  4. B

    Firearms are for sporting and hunting

    Gun rights are about hunting and sporting ? http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/most-heavily-armed-states-in-america/?ftag=ACQ449302a&vndid=1845235004&ttag=cbsn-fb-1038&nan_pid=1845235004
  5. B

    Safety For All campaign fundraising Email from today

    Why am I not surprised? When an individual believes themselves to be doing the right thing in restricting civil rights it's kind of like Lay's potato chips - You Can't Eat Just One: The Supreme Court just did something big, XXXX. Yesterday's ruling will prevent domestic abusers from owning...
  6. arthwollipot

    Maybe the 2nd isn't as fixed as all that...

    The Supreme Court has just ruled that evidence obtained in an illegal search can be used against you. The case involves a person who was stopped by police on suspicion of illegal drug activity - a stop that was later deemed unlawful by state authorities. The police then found an outstanding...
  7. Dr. Keith

    Federal Gun Owner License

    Would it be possible to discuss just this one issue in a single thread without talking about other issues surrounding gun control and shootings in the US? Here is my hypothetical (I hesitate to call it a proposal since I haven't really thought it out much): What is a Federal Gun Owners...
  8. Axiom_Blade

    Dylann Roof: The Second Amendment Strikes Again

    Another opportunity to see reactions from the...er...gun hobbyists, when their toy of choice is used to kill a bunch of people. Right. Which is scarier...Dylann Roof with an icepick? Dylann Roof with a kitchen knife? Or Dylann Roof with a gun? As long as we have Dylann Roofs walking around...
  9. B

    Federal court strikes down ban on interstate handgun transfers

    http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/02/foghorn/breaking-federal-judge-declares-interstate-handgun-transfer-ban-unconstitutional/ This will be on the way to SCOTUS, but it will be interesting to watch. Here in California we have a similar case on the way to SCOTUS on the mandatory 10 day...
  10. Mudcat

    What Does the Second Amendment Really Say?

    Before we get to the discussion, let me get this out the way that this is not a topic intended to be about gun control. Rather it is about the constitutional amendment and what it says. Because, let's face it, the wording isn't exactly clear. Here it is, as ratified by the states and...
  11. B

    Another Second Amendment win in California

    http://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/memoranda/2014/03/05/11-16255.pdf The 9th Circuit ruled that the Yolo County Sheriff's policy of rejecting "self defense" as good cause for the issuance of a concealed carry permit is unconstitutional, as they did earlier in the case against San Diego county.
  12. WildCat

    Merged 9th Circuit Strikes Down "May Issue" Concealed carry In California

    So California had a "may ssue" concealed carry licensing system, in which it was left up to the opinion of the local sheriff whether or not the license was issued. San Diego County, for all intents and purposes, denied this right to every applicant - unless, of course, you had the appropriate...
  13. arthwollipot

    The Second Amendment and the "Right" to Bear Arms

    Personally, I'm of the opinion that there shouldn't be a right to bear arms. Why is arming oneself with a potentially deadly weapon considered something that all Americans have a right to do? I don't see it as anything like the right to freedom of speech or assembly, or religion, or anything...
  14. Mudcat

    Bardstown Police Officer Shoot For Being Good Samaritan

    Here's to the Second Amendment: This link to the story doesn't mention it, but it's believed that the officer was helping someone with a flat tire. A police officer whom appeared to be one of the good guys shoot, while in uniform, all for being a good Samaritan. Yeah, tell me how we don't...
  15. Oliver

    Right to bear ammunition

    Okay, so the US is dammed to stick to it's gun laws. Rightly so, given the basic constitutional right. But what about ammunition? The amendment does not specifically address the right to buy as much ammunition you're able to get in the shortest period of time. Thus I don't see a problem in...
  16. Undesired Walrus

    How would you amend the second amendment?

    For those who would want to, of course. A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. Or will anyone make the interesting argument that it actually compatible with gun control laws?
  17. thaiboxerken

    Supreme Court rules for Gun Ownership

    The Supreme Court just ruled that States and Local governments cannot infringe upon the 2nd ammendment. So go out and buy your guns! Whoo hoo!! Let's relive the wild west!
  18. B

    2nd Amendment for the U.K. -- long overdue

    Much like oral hygiene, the Brits haven't got a clue about gun rights. After that crazy taxi cab mother ****er shot a bunch of unarmed civilians, it's about time the U.K. thought about adopting its own 2nd Amendment-type gun rights legislation. How many more people have to die before the Brits...
  19. The Fallen Serpent

    Liberals, support or reject a de facto ban on handgun ownership?

    Feel free to elaborate. I chose No, with major exceptions. Those exceptions would be for certain classes and states. Violent criminals, major mental illness, discharging under the influence, high security locations, registered Republicans (j/king, that falls under the second class ;) )
  20. jimtron

    Fight for your right to bare arms!!

    Is it just me, or is the sentiment to protect Second Amendment rights a straw man to divert attention away from more important issues (like health care reform)? There's a group on Facebook, with 199,000 members, called Preserve our right to keep and bear arms. I'd like to converse with these...
  21. Smiledriver

    2nd ammendment skepticism

    Hello, I have noticed that an ever present fixture in the gun control debate in the U.S. is an argument over the intention of the 2nd ammendment to the American constitution. The ammendment seems to be viewed as either... 1.) That well regulated miltias are crucial to the security of a free...
  22. Nyarlathotep

    Weirdest election mailer ever

    So the other day I got a mailer that puzzled me. ON the front side it showed a couple of people at a shooting range with words to the effect that Obama and McCain are pretty much the same on the issue of gun control. Even most of the back expounded on the idea that there was no real difference...
  23. Drudgewire

    Supreme Court: 2nd Amendment NOT about militias

    From the Scotus Blog: And so there is no ambiguity: And from The Hill :cheerleader1 :bounce2 :cheerleader3 :cheerleader2 :cheerleader5 157 page ruling
  24. Oliver

    Student killed in shooting at Fresno school

    What a coincidence, eh? Exactly one year after the VT shooting, another Idiot praises his second amendment rights: http://us.cnn.com/?refresh=1 Oh - Happy Birthday, Pope. May God force you to take a stance on that.
  25. JonathanClement

    Gun controll?

    Oh, crap... So, I watched this video about gun control about how they took all the guns away in england and it stirred the pot of paranoia again... Especially considering that England also has a reputation for being constantly monitored... It makes me wonder if it isn't part of some conspiracy...
  26. Brown

    The 2nd Amendment and the US Supreme Court

    On Tuesday, 18 March 2008, the case of District of Columbia vs. Heller will be orally argued before the United States Supreme Court. It is the only case scheduled for argument that day (for all other argument days in March, two cases are scheduled for argument). At issue is: Emotions are...
  27. Roadtoad

    You're not helping, Ted

    I realize that Ted Nugent is free to express his thoughts any way he chooses. But sometimes, a more reasoned response is called for. Let me state this clearly: I support the Second Amendment rights of our nation's citizens, within reason. At present, I'm not a gun owner. I chose years ago...
  28. Upchurch

    Trying Again: being necessary to the security of a free State

    Original derailed thread I won't completely restate what I said in the first thread, but to summarize: After a brief discussion a few days ago, I was introduced to the idea that the word "arms" might be too narrowly construed to just mean firearms. In the modern day and age, the internet...
  29. WildCat

    Federal Appeals Court Overturns DC Handgun Ban

    Story: Very interesting, a federal appeals court actually discovered the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution! Decision will be appealed to the full court, and probably to the SCOTUS after that. It would be nice to see the high court actually address this issue for once, we'll see. Chicago has a...
  30. F

    History: 2nd Amendment - Hypothesis on creation, not interpetation

    Okay, I’ve had a hypothesis for the last couple of years that I would like to spread around. Laws usually reflect, to some extent, the society which creates them. A society which bans a practice usually means that someone in the society was performing the thing that the society thinks...

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