2004 elections

this comes up in passing a lot but i never see much in-depth discussion, hopefully this thread can serve as a place for that personally i have a few questions for those who beleive fraud occurred (this is all those who feel bush/republicans are guilty, and pomeroo who feels kerry/democrats are...

Here is a link to a piece by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. that is likely to raise some eyebrows, and which is starting to make a few headlines: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen The complete piece is currently available for review on-line. If one can...

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/12/21/1103391729172.html Yep, he's a much better man than Kerry could ever be.

For those who asked, back in the day, "If this is all true why isn't CNN reporting it?", stories from CNN and the NYT. http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/12/10/unsettled.election.ap/index.html (The same story is on the NYT site at...

I would like to nominate George W Bush for the Pigasus Award. I only see his re-election as a Paranormal Event. A complete shift of the entire Universe as I know it. Yes, I realize that my nomination resembles sour grapes... I just have a hard time with the state of affairs of our nation...

The closer an election, the more reasons there are for the outcome, i.e. if someone loses by 1 vote, a sneeze may have made the difference. Along those lines, here are three hyper stupid things that may have cost Kerry the election: 1) gay marriage flaps in MA and CA 2) his retarded Mary...

The www.blackboxvoting.org site has been updated. There is absolutely no new hard evidence of anything there. They say this is because people were hiding evidence (other people that is, not them) and that hding their own evidence will somehow solve the problem. I can't honestly say that I...

None Dare Call it Voter Suppression and Fraud by Bob Fitrakis www.dissidentvoice.org November 8, 2004 First Published in The Free Press more at above website There is a mounting congressional call for an investigation by the GAO into election fraud.

Some people don't have a clue as to how to be gracious. MM hates Bush (and America) so much that instead of asking his minions to respect the results of our democracy and come together as a nation he petulantly shuts his website and hides in shame. www.michaelmoore.com Moore did his best to...

Look, whomever you wanted to win (I wouldn't have minded Kerry), it seems pretty clear that Bush took Ohio. CNN and ABC have both called states for one candidate or the other over a few tens-of-thousands vote leads. However, Bush is leading in Ohio by roughly a hundred and fifty thousand...

Interesting thought. What with a number of "progressive" issues on various initiatives around the country, I wonder if, by calling for a vote on them, conservatives who would not otherwise vote came out. I am thinking of the gay marriage stuff, and the parential notification thing in Fla.

I'm very concerned with the level of molarity in this electron. Everyone seems to think that George Bush is the most molar candidate and would make the best liter of our country, but in truth, he lacks concentration. John Kerry is very dense, but the poles show that he's reached several parts...

I was wondering about some of the less-expected endorsements that the candidates are getting. My interest was piqued when New Hampshire's own Bob Smith, an extremely conservative Republican (now living in Florida), came out for Kerry. Story Here. Most of the article (in a very conservative...

I feel Bush deserves to win purely on the basis that he seeded the clouds of war now he must weather the storm of this monumental screwup. That will include the inevitable cut and run after a time congress at some time sooner or later will refuse to fund this Middle East money pit to the order...

While getting my daily news fix, I was watching 2 different newscasts (NBC National and BBC on PBS). They were both giving a rundown of the various stump speeches by Bush and Kerry. Bush, on his permanent Kerry-attack mode was responding to the missing explosives story and said that all the...

Note the question carefully. It is not, "Why are you voting against Bush?" I am hard-pressed to think of a reason that anyone has given for why they are voting for Kerry. So, if you are voting for Kerry, please share your reasons with the rest of us. "Bush is a screwup", "Bush lied about Iraq"...

Linky I'm not one to normally start one of these partisan bash-a-thons, but this one just pushed me over the edge. The Bush campaign practically monopolizes the use of fear as a political tool. The hypocrisy is so glaring in this one even Bush can't possibly self-delude himself from not...

I just finished watching the final debate tonight. Both candidates did well and "stayed on message". The sloganeering from the first debate seemed to have returned, especially for Kerry. With all this religeon and faith stuff that both candidates professed, Badnarik of the Libertarian party is...

George Soros published this 2 page ad in the Tampa Tribune and other papers in hotly contested states. I apologise for the lenght but I could not find a link. If someone could post it and we'll have the moderators remove the text. I have removed text and inserted links so that this post is not...

an article from the Seattle Post-Intelligencer : Cheney changed his view on Iraq He said in '92 Saddam not worth U.S. casualties By CHARLES POPE SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT WASHINGTON -- In an assessment that differs sharply with his view today, Dick Cheney more than a...

Like a fool I will watch the debate tonight and will probably be underwhelmed by it all. I would rather see Bush and Kerry don boxing gloves and head gear, since they are amatuers, and go three rounds in a boxing ring. Who would win? I tend to favor Kerry for his 6'4" height and longer reach...

Survivor:Vanuatu I heard 2 people will be voted off tonight!!! :eek: We can also discuss The Apprentice, which is also normally on tonight, but was on last night instead for some reason.

From The New York Times (registration required) and AP: This is really the first good news of the campaign. Both camps actually agreed on the debates, and the agreement appeared to be reached in good faith by both camps. Presidential debates will take place on September 30 (University of...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5971162/site/newsweek/ Bush below 50%?

Whats the word on the upcoming congressional races?? Even if GW wins, will he have a Republican controlled congress to play with?? Or are the dems in line to take over.

When I saw polls before, usually on Fox, Nader was polling 4 - 5% of the popular vote. Where's the Nader coverage - of the guy whose votes could decide the election? As I remember from 2000, there was tons of coverage then. Nader was in fact the real deciding factor in Gore's loss, not a few...

Appears the anarchists and fruits. nuts, and flakes of the wingnut left, semi-contained in their blogs since the eclipse of Howie By Lurch, plan to slither back out into the sunlight at the Republican Convention. :) http://www.iht.com/articles/534938.html I heard a report on an ABC affiliate...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1963&e=7&u=/ap/20040827/ap_on_el_pr/convention_protests_7

From Fox News quoting ex-senator Clelland: "These scurrilous attacks on John Kerry's credibility and war, his courage, his valor, are false and George Bush is behind it," Cleland told members of the press after trying to deliver the letter. "That's why I tried to deliver a letter to the...