9/11-investigator explains the Holocaust

[little grey rabbit]

My father escaped the death camps. you want to know how? He said he took advantage of the fact that all Nazis were dirt dumb slaves to authority so one night, after much practice, he imitated an officers voice and ordered one of the dumb Nazis to attention and gutted him like a cow, stole his uniform and got away

Seriously?? Or is this some kind of forum in-joke that I am not aware of?

It sounds very interesting. What camp was this and how did he survive until war's end?
As your father given his testimony - either oral or memoir - to one of the many of the many Holocaust history centers around? If he was still able to give it (ie not passed away), many of them would love to have it.

 

[TSR]

Bunny? From RODOH?

 

[little grey rabbit]

I gutted Dr Terry like a cow and escaped.

Now about your father's heart-warming tale of courage and resistance?

 

[Matthew Ellard]

Initially he fled to Teheran, now for many years he lives and works in Moscow. The only 'crime' he committed was writing about the H-word.

Nope. He tells people he lives in Moscow working as a translator but he lives in Tehran. That's where his mail is sent.

Also you are wrong about his charges. It was about distribution of other peoples work.

 

[Matthew Ellard]

Initially he fled to Teheran, now for many years he lives and works in Moscow. The only 'crime' he committed was writing about the H-word.

About the Jewish fat hoot:

Here is the origin of the Judenfett myth:

Who mentioned Junenfett? I directly used the word soap made from human fat. Are saying there was never any experiments made by the Nazi's in the producing soap out of human fat?

 

[TSR]

I gutted Dr Terry like a cow and escaped.

Now about your father's heart-warming tale of courage and resistance?

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*My* father?

Your claims about Dr Terry are about as accurate as your claims about my father.

IOW: bring it on, and we will have to get your *ss from Nick so we can hand it to you again.
.

 

[Matthew Ellard]

If Matthew continues to develop this particular topic, I predict the response will be a wall of copy-pastes and the inevitable abandonment of any discussion by 9/11-ctrl-v-estigator as he continues his hilarious Gish gallop.

I think 9/11 will be most informative with his knowledge concerning the Nazi experiments in producing soap out of human fat. It is his big chance to prove himself. So 9/11, do you agree the Nazis experiments and produced a small amount of soap out of human fat?

Google Hint: "Warsaw Agricultural University"

 

[Matthew Ellard]

Maybe the one-and-a-half lurker will notice that my opponents will not even try to counter my observations and resort to the usual smearing.

In Darwinian terms it means that they lost the debate.

No, I am inviting you to make a specific statement about the Nazi experiments about making soap out of human fat. Are you prepared to do this or not?

 

[little grey rabbit]

TSR:
You are right sorry, it was tsig. Hopefully he will be back to reveal all.

My father escaped the death camps. you want to know how? He said he took advantage of the fact that all Nazis were dirt dumb slaves to authority so one night, after much practice, he imitated an officers voice and ordered one of the dumb Nazis to attention and gutted him like a cow, stole his uniform and got away. He said that after that he thought of all Nazis as dumb, stupid cattle and wished they all had one throat so he could cut it.

I think Dr Terry will disappoint you. Last seen he had taken his bat and ball and gone home saying that the Bunny was on ignore for eternity.

But if you get into enormous problems he might come back to help you out.

 

[9/11-investigator]

I think 9/11 will be most informative with his knowledge concerning the Nazi experiments in producing soap out of human fat. It is his big chance to prove himself. So 9/11, do you agree the Nazis experiments and produced a small amount of soap out of human fat?

Google Hint: "Warsaw Agricultural University"

When Matthew starts to make a quiz out of the H-word you can be sure he has something to hide. The keywords lead to a Nizkor text (Nizkor, this shabby one man operation) that supposedly refers to "Mail & Guardian Online, http://www.mg.co.za/". The reason that Matthew frames his allegations into quiz form is that this original Guardian link does not exist nor from any other MSM source.

But maybe Matthew can provide us with one.

P.S. not even Yad Vashem is pushing the Jewish Soap Opera anymore, but Matthew keeps trying.

Ah wait, probably Matthew is refering to this (Wikipedia is edited according to a Zionist agenda as we all know):

During World War II it was widely believed that soap was being mass produced from the bodies of Jewish concentration camp victims. The Yad Vashem Memorial has stated that the Nazis did not produce soap from Jewish corpses on an industrial scale, saying that rumors that soap from human corpses was being mass-produced and distributed were used by the Nazis to frighten camp inmates.[1][2][3] Evidence does exist, however, which indicate the possibility that research facilities had developed a process for the industrial production of soap from human bodies.

But Wikipedia does not refer tot MSM articles either. To support their story they provide 3 footnotes, only 1 a non-Wikipedia source:

http://www.thevillager.com/villager_323/somestilldeny.html

In this article a guy called Jeff Cohen says "I believe it is indisputable that at the Danzig Institute they made soap as in the play".

That's it. Wonderful. Any other source Matthew? Of course not. Keep shooting yourself in the foot Matthew. Mazzeltov, Matthew!

Listen, tenths of thousands of people died in the camps, no revisionist denies that. Even today corpses are used for scientific research. The question whether or not some weirdo used a corps for this kind of research is irrelevant for the question whether 4 millions of Jews where gassed or not, the subject of this discussion. It is also established as a fact that there were no production facilities to produce soap from corpses, whether Jewish or not.

Nice diversion Matthew.

 

[9/11-investigator]

TSR:
You are right sorry, it was tsig. Hopefully he will be back to reveal all.

I think Dr Terry will disappoint you. Last seen he had taken his bat and ball and gone home saying that the Bunny was on ignore for eternity.

But if you get into enormous problems he might come back to help you out.

Probably we are not going to hear anything from Dr Terry any time soon here. He is afraid that his H-word pupils are going to do some google searching and that they end up here and will be using this thread to ask akward questions. Hopefully for Nick he will have no pupils with BNP sympathies.

After all, not everybody is keen to giving his country away like Nick seems to be.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Where are the laughing dogs...
First: Nicolas Sarkozy is not a jew.
Second: Obama runs America since 01/20/2009.
Third: it's spelled "Kouchner"
Fourth: He was a member of the French Socialist Party and doesn't have any link with Besancenot.

You are right about the spelling of Kouchner, not about the background of Sarkozy:

http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/leute/0,1518,688010,00.html

About Sarko's mother:

Seine erste Frau Dadou, Tochter eines griechischstämmigen konvertierten Juden, wurde die Mutter der ersten drei Söhne, unter ihnen der spätere Präsident.

The rule is: 'mother Jew, child Jew'. Half-Jews only exist in situations where guilliotines are involved.

Even the Jews are somewhat embarrased about Sarko:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/955859.html

Toward the end of his keynote speech, he said he intends to raise the profile of the memory of the Holocaust, by having 11-year-old schoolchildren 'adopt' a Jewish child of the same age who perished in the Holocaust...

Jean-Marie Le Pen, the leader of the extreme right, was fuming. Having referred in the past to the gas chambers as a footnote in the Second World War, he said that the proposal is morally abhorrent and psychologically criminal.

"The poor children will feel guilty and break down," he added. .

But that is exactly the intention mr Le Pen. We are supposed to holocaust ourselves out of existence.

Here is more about the vicious agenda: we are supposed to breed ourselves out of existence:

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3764

"In his message Sarkozy insisted that the French people must change, that there will be dire consequences if they don't, and that not to intermarry racially is bad for the survival of the country. Thus he amalgamated the concepts of preference for minorities in job hiring with that of the need for the French to intermarry racially."

The Race of Moonlanders is supposed to Africanize itself.

It is genocide by H-word poison. That is why this discussion is so vital for our survival as a distinct people. The Jewish Simone Veil, another 'Holocaust-survivor' is embarrassed, not because she does not support Sarko's agenda (most Jews do) but because she is afraid Sarko's NWO intentions are becoming too obvious and that the Goyim once again are going to hit back. A very realistic concern.

 

[Uzzy]

So, I take it you're running away from the debate we had before about the witness statements of SS men at Nuremberg?

 

[240-185]

WUT? He took one of my oooooooooooold posts, only to answer it... NOW?

Toward the end of his keynote speech, he said he intends to raise the profile of the memory of the Holocaust, by having 11-year-old schoolchildren 'adopt' a Jewish child of the same age who perished in the Holocaust...

This announcement was made months ago and is now abandoned.

The Jewish Simone Veil, another 'Holocaust-survivor' is embarrassed, <cut!>

Freaking disgusting man. I suppose that you think that the digits on her arm are just some kind of tattoos? Furthermore, I challenge you to tell her right in her eyes that her arrest at Nice while she was a student in 1944 for the Drancy camp, then Auschwitz was a pure invention. I challenge you to tell her right in her eyes that the terrible tasks she had to do never existed.

You deserve to be continuously slapped on each cheek.

 

[9/11-investigator]

WUT? He took one of my oooooooooooold posts, only to answer it... NOW?

That Spiegel article was published today.

This announcement was made months ago and is now abandoned.

Did not know that, glad to hear it.

I suppose that you think that the digits on her arm are just some kind of tattoos?

Yes 'some kind of tattoo'. You mean that arm that is still alive and belongs to someone who still moves in the highest circles of French and European politics?

Furthermore, I challenge you to tell her right in her eyes that her arrest at Nice while she was a student in 1944 for the Drancy camp, then Auschwitz was a pure invention.

Why should I repeat your insane accusations in her face? Do it yourself.
She lost her parents, brother and sister in Bergen-Belsen. According to Wikipedia they died there, probably meaning no gassing claims here.

Talking about Simone Veil here some interesting insights from Faurisson:

http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndwitness.html

2. The Thesis of Simone Veil

After the end of the war, the illusion that there were innumerable witnesses to the Auschwitz gas chambers was gradually accepted. By the end of the 1970s, with the arrival of historical revisionism into the media arena, particularly in France, it began to occur to certain individuals that these witnesses were perhaps not as numerous as one had believed...

Two weeks later, Simone Veil publicly reacted to this judicial decision - upsetting for her and her co-religionists - with a declaration of extreme importance. She admitted the absence of proofs, of traces and even witnesses of the gas chambers, but added this absence was easily explained because:

"Everyone knows [she asserts] that the Nazis destroyed these gas chambers and systematically eradicated all the witnesses."

That's my girl! I am saying precisely the same thing as mrs Veil, except for the last sentence. The Dutch/Canadian Jew van Pelt, the current global H-word star, asserts exactly the same thing.

We are getting somewhere!

 

[VonKleist]

So, I take it you're running away from the debate we had before about the witness statements of SS men at Nuremberg?

Of course.

Again, if you hate my guts but nevertheless have anything to say I recommend calling me a 'Nazi'.

Depends what you mean by 'Nazi' really. If you are referring to National Socialism, then, given your poor knowledge of 3rd Reich history, any resemblance you have to a real 'Nazi' is largely coincidental.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Soap Opera latest:

http://www.telegraaf.nl/buitenland/6495863/__Canada_onderzoekt__Holocaust-zeep___.html?p=11,2

Google translator:

Canada investigates 'Holocaust-soap'
MONTREAL - The Canadian authorities have investigated a bar of soap which the seller claims it was made of victims of the Holocaust. The Jewish shopkeeper in Montreal claims that the fat of murdered Jews is used to produce the soap.

The police confiscated the soap last week after complaints from angry Jewish groups. Authorities expect a few days on the outcome of the research available.

The soap with the image of a swastika printed inside, was found in the curiosity shop of the retailer in downtown Montreal. The owner wanted $ 300. He bought the soap from a former soldier.

According to historians it is not true that the Nazi mass produced soap from the remains of Holocaust victims. There may have experimented with making soap from fat in extermination camps.

With some confidence we are looking forward to the outcome of the investigation. The confidence stems from the perceived 'anger of Jewish groups' who obviously know the outcome in advance and fear that it will advance the cause of these darned deniers. A fear well justified.

 

[tsig]

Soap Opera latest:

http://www.telegraaf.nl/buitenland/6495863/__Canada_onderzoekt__Holocaust-zeep___.html?p=11,2

Google translator:

Canada investigates 'Holocaust-soap'
MONTREAL - The Canadian authorities have investigated a bar of soap which the seller claims it was made of victims of the Holocaust. The Jewish shopkeeper in Montreal claims that the fat of murdered Jews is used to produce the soap.

The police confiscated the soap last week after complaints from angry Jewish groups. Authorities expect a few days on the outcome of the research available.

The soap with the image of a swastika printed inside, was found in the curiosity shop of the retailer in downtown Montreal. The owner wanted $ 300. He bought the soap from a former soldier.

According to historians it is not true that the Nazi mass produced soap from the remains of Holocaust victims. There may have experimented with making soap from fat in extermination camps.

With some confidence we are looking forward to the outcome of the investigation. The confidence stems from the perceived 'anger of Jewish groups' who obviously know the outcome in advance and fear that it will advance the cause of these darned deniers. A fear well justified.

I don't believe it because the Nazis were too dirt dumb to make soap. All they were good for was rooting in the ground and shooting people.

Rooting and shooting were all those cows were capable of.

 

[Uzzy]

And the relevence of this, Katyn or anything else that you've brought up recently to the Holocaust is..? Maybe I should just bring up the SS Testimony you studiously ignored, given that's actually relevent to the discussion.

Dieter Wisliceny, SS Hauptsturmfuehrer.

LT. COL. BROOKHART: Were there distinct periods of activity affecting the Jews?
WISLICENY: Yes.
LT. COL. BROOKHART: Will you describe to the Tribunal the approximate periods and the different types of activity?
WISLICENY: Yes. Until 1940 the general policy within the section was to settle the Jewish question in Germany and in areas occupied by Germany by means of a planned emigration. The second phase, after that date, was the concentration of all Jews, in Poland and in other territories occupied by Germany in the East, in ghettos. This period lasted approximately until the beginning of 1942. The third period was the so called "final solution" of the Jewish question, that is, the planned extermination and destruction of the Jewish race; this period lasted until October 1944, when Himmler gave the order to stop their destruction.

LT. COL. BROOKHART: When did you first become associated with Section IVA4 of the RSHA?
WISLICENY: That was in 1940. I happened to meet Eichmann . . .
LT. COL. BROOKHART: What was your position?
WISLICENY: Eichmann suggested that I go to Bratislava as adviser on the Jewish question to the Slovakian Government.
LT. COL. BROOKHART: Thereafter how long did you hold that position?
WISLICENY: I was at Bratislava until the spring of 1943; then, almost a year in Greece and later, from March 1944 until December 1944, I was with Eichmann in Hungary. In January 1945 I left Eichmann's department.
LT. COL. BROOKHART: In your official connection with Section IVA4, did you learn of any order which directed the annihilation of all Jews?
WISLICENY: Yes, I learned of such an order for the first time from Eichmann in the summer of 1942.
LT. COL. BROOKHART: Will you tell the Tribunal under what circumstances and what was the substance of the order?
WISLICENY: In the spring of 1942 about 17,000 Jews were taken from Slovakia to Poland as workers. It was a question of an agreement with the Slovakian Government. The Slovakian Government further asked whether the families of these workers could not be taken to Poland as well. At first Eichmann declined this request.


In April or at the beginning of May 1942 Eichmann told me that henceforward whole families could also be taken to Poland. Eichmann himself was at Bratislava in May 1942 and had discussed the matter with competent members of the Slovakian Government. He visited Minister Mach and the then Prime Minister, Professor Tuka. At that time he assured the Slovakian Government that these Jews would be humanely and decently treated in the Polish ghettos. This was the special wish of the Slovakian Government. As a result of this assurance about 35,000 Jews were taken from Slovakia into Poland. The Slovakian Government, however, made efforts to see that these Jews were, in fact, humanely treated; they particularly tried to help such Jews as had been converted to Christianity. Prime Minister Tuka repeatedly asked me to visit him and expressed the wish that a Slovakian delegation be allowed to enter the areas to which the Slovakian Jews were supposed to have been sent. I transmitted this wish to Eichmann and the Slovakian Government even sent him a note on the matter. Eichmann at the time gave an evasive answer.


Then at the end of July or the beginning of August, I went to see him in Berlin and implored him once more to grant the request of the Slovakian Government. I pointed out to him that abroad there were rumors to the effect that all Jews in Poland were being exterminated. I pointed out to him that the Pope had intervened with the Slovakian Government on their behalf. I advised him that such a proceeding, if really true, would seriously injure our prestige, that is, the prestige of Germany, abroad. For all these reasons I begged him to permit the inspection in question. After a lengthy discussion Eichmann told me that this request to visit the Polish ghettos could not be granted under any circumstances whatsoever. In reply to my question "Why?" he said that most of these Jews were no longer alive. I asked him who had given such instructions and he referred me to an order of Himmler's. I then begged him to show me this order, because I could not believe that it actually existed in writing.

WISLICENY: Eichmann told me he could show me this order in writing i! it would soothe my conscience. He took a small volume of documents from his safe, turned over the pages, and showed me a letter from Himmler to the Chief of the Security Police and the SD. The gist of the letter was roughly as follows:


The Fuehrer had ordered the final solution of the Jewish question; the Chief of the Security Police and the SD and the Inspector of Concentration Camps were entrusted with carrying out this so-called final solution. All Jewish men and women who were able to work were to be temporarily exempted from the so-called final solution and used for work in the concentration camps. This letter was signed by Himmler himself. I could not possibly be mistaken since Himmler's signature was well known to me. I. . .
LT. COL. BROOKHART: To whom was the order addressed?
WISLICENY: To the Chief of the Security Police and SD, that is, to the office of the Chief of the Security Police and SD.
LT. COL. BROOKHART: Was there any other addressee on this order?
WISLICENY: Yes, the Inspector of Concentration Camps. The order was addressed to both these offices.
LT. COL. BROOKHART: Did the order bear any classification for security purposes?
WISLICENY: It was classified as "secret."
LT. COL. BROOKHART: What was the approximate date of this order?
WISLICENY: This order was dated April 1942.
LT. COL. BROOKHART: By whom was it signed?
WISLICENY: By Himmler personally.
LT.COL.BROOKHART: And you personally examined this order in Eichmann's office?
WISLICENY: Yes, Eichmann handed me the document and I saw the order myself.
LT. COL. BROOKHART: Was any question asked by you as to the meaning of the words "final solution" as used in the order?
WISLICENY: Eichmann went on to explain to me what was meant by this. He said that the planned biological annihilation of the Jewish race in the Eastern Territories was disguised by the concept and wording "final solution." In later discussions on this subject the same words "final solution" appeared over and over again.

Would you like to address Wisliceny's testimony? Or would you rather keep bringing up soap sales in Canada?

 

[VonKleist]

The question whether or not some weirdo used a corps for this kind of research is irrelevant for the question whether 4 millions of Jews where gassed or not, the subject of this discussion. It is also established as a fact that there were no production facilities to produce soap from corpses, whether Jewish or not.

Nice diversion Matthew.

I hope you are not pulling numbers out of your equus hydruntinus again. Would you care to break down that number into how many were gassed at each relevant location and which source you are using?