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Psychic Samurai applies for MDC...apparently...

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Pixel42 said:
As The Professor seems to be committed to an event on 31st October, can I repeat my suggestion that you attend it purely as an observer? Once you have a clear idea of what the phenomenon in question actually consists of and recordings to examine, it should be much easier to determine if it qualifies as paranormal and is testable within the terms of the challenge. Negotiations on a test protocol and success criteria can then begin, and a date set for the actual test.
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We have been offered things like this before, and have always turned them down. We simply can't spend the time and effort visiting people to see what they can do.

We really need a claim.
 
petre said:
To Jeff, it seems The Professor is reluctant to specifically ask outright himself, but would the JREF be willing to provide a comprehensive list of countermeasures that would ensure voices appearing on a recording device must originate from a paranormal source? I can imagine some reasons JREF might decline to do so. They may consider imposing such a list on an applicant unfair (since the event, as stated, is VERY open to cheating and significant measures would likely have to be taken to prevent the rather simple task of getting a recorder to record voices). The Professor seems to believe he has resources available to confront any task set before him, so perhaps he should be made aware of some of the significant items that would be required in such a test. JREF may also feel that being asked to provide such a list moves the challenge too far away from the proper focus (the applicant) and that the applicant ought to "do his homework himself". Perhaps the JREF simply doesn't have the resources to provide such a list at this time (it may have trouble locating experts that could comment on defeating some of the more unusual transmission methods). Stating more clearly why The Professor must detail such a list himself may help him to understand that he still has a great amount of work to do (and in a very short amount of time if he wishes to keep to the rather demanding deadline he has requested).
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We can't reveal what countermeasures, if any we would use. After all, it's a paranormal event, and we have no countermeasures against the paranormal.
 
jmercer said:
Again, as a private member and not a moderator:

Pixel42, I understand your point fully, and I agree with it in spirit (no pun intended) - but not as a practical matter. Here's why:

1) Setting aside The JREF's stated policy for this one person would be setting a precedent for other applicants to demand "special treatment" - opening the door to all sorts of mischief.

2) The applicant is the challenger; a challenge is NOT a cooperative experiment, it's a challenge. There's no reason for The JREF to do anything (other than make reasonable accommodations) for the challenger. There's a million bucks at stake - that should be enough to get anyone to do what's needed to get to the preliminary and final round of testing.

3) The JREF hasn't been putting a time limit on this - The Professor has. All The JREF has asked for is a clear definition of his claim, and to present them with a proposed protocol based on that claim so protocol negotiations can begin.

4) So far, the claim hasn't been articulated; The Professor is insisting on the date; and there cannot even be a meaningful discussion on protocols without an understanding of what will be tested and what a successful outcome will be.

Frankly, I don't expect The JREF to change their position on this, and I don't believe they should. The Professor is the one making the challenge, and therefore it's on his shoulders to provide all the necessary elements to succeed.

To me, what's being claimed here is so vague that it could mean anything at all.
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Very well stated.
 
Seems to me that The Slim Physic David King <insert real middle name here for added effect> Professor Samurai Koenig feels there is not sufficient time to adequately whine and cry on the internet AND develop a protocol. So that left him with a choice, and he decided that playing the victim to nasty skeptic bigots was more important than a cool million. BTW, this is exactly the type of applicant that Remie was referring to in her "opinion" and she is 100% correct. This guy is pure comedy gold.

Just in case he is serious, let us see if he can handle an easy one.

TSPDK<>PSK: In what way will you control for Ventriloquism, from any possible source?

This is the easiest and most likely way to produce voices without an obvious source. Let's get this one out of the way, then maybe we can move to sophisticated electronics and such.

As mentioned previously, I too believe that the outdoor environment is way too uncontrolled for this type of claim and a protocol will never be accepted on TSPDK<>PSK's stage of choice.

Publicity stunt all the way.
 
I have just finished reading this thread from page 1. I have noticed that, despite 17 pages, there is still one thing missing:


Please clearly state what your claimed ability is.
 
Seventeen pages, over four weeks. I'm just wondering....

Can you tell us what your claimed paranormal ability is?

But, BY DAWG, we have the place and time nailed down :)! And the time slots for commercials :)! Funny how the mean old skeptics couldn't keep you from getting those parts in :covereyes, when the important part is....

Can you tell us what your claimed paranormal ability is?
 
To hell with this application now,I don't care anymore.Any act -when you've seen it enough times -get's boring,but maybe...just a remote chance there is time for an encore.
Thats what the silence from The Prof must mean.I send this message out through time and space:

Be so kind as to tell us what your claim is! :)
 
Jeff Wagg said:
Raymond Hill is an "entity" who Jim Callahan claims can communicate with him. It's a supernatural claim. One that could easily be tested, in fact, should Jim ever decide to apply.

To bring things back to bear, have you established your claim yet? We're still under the restrictions of your timetable.
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Ok you have my attention Jeff.
Please offer up the test and I will consider it.

This was a thread I had decided to stay out of but your comment poked at my curiosity and now I am in.

We have been doing tests for the past couple of years and would welcome your input on this.

I see some problems with Dave's situation and will address those shortly.

Best Wishes,

Jim
 
Jeff Wagg said:
We can't reveal what countermeasures, if any we would use. After all, it's a paranormal event, and we have no countermeasures against the paranormal.
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It would seem indeed then the ball (homework, or whatever metaphor one might feel has appropriate connotations) has been tossed to The Professor.

The Professor, perhaps with the rather extensive resources available to you an expert on sound projection could be consulted to determine just how you would rule out all scientifically known potential sources of sound? It would seem your most recent proposal falls short. Depending on the particular media you intend to record on, experts in that form of recording may need to be contacted as well to ensure elimination of any recording artifacts that could affect the results. I look forward to your findings on the matter.
 
Jim Callahan said:
Ok you have my attention Jeff.
Please offer up the test and I will consider it.

This was a thread I had decided to stay out of but your comment poked at my curiosity and now I am in.

We have been doing tests for the past couple of years and would welcome your input on this.

I see some problems with Dave's situation and will address those shortly.

Best Wishes,

Jim
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All you have to do is apply.
 
Jeff Wagg said:
All you have to do is apply.
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Jeff you said it so please tell us or admit your post to Dave was a fraud.
You brought me into this and I am only doing what Randi would do.
(Bit of a bite in the shorts is it not)?

No one has proven me fraud but I have exposed Randi as a possible felon.
(But you offer a rather nasty opinion about me).

Jeff you said you could test my claim now you run and hide?
If you were just blowing smoke up Daves backside say so.
I understand you have to protect the cash and will do anything to protect it and what you think is right.

If you were posting true please do tell us all how it is you would test me.

Jeff I would have not even entered into this but you brought me up and some sort of claim so
please be honest and offer up how you would test me.

Personally I think you are no more honest intellectually Randi.

But I am sure you find me a bit less than perfect yourself.

However I am sure many are wondering why you made the comment and now that you have my attention you run.

Sorry if this might read pointed for it is not.
I just think people should be honest in the things they post.

I'll go back to my Gin now.

Best Wishes,

Jim Callahan
 
Jim Callahan said:
Ok you have my attention Jeff.
Please offer up the test and I will consider it.

This was a thread I had decided to stay out of but your comment poked at my curiosity and now I am in.

We have been doing tests for the past couple of years and would welcome your input on this.

I see some problems with Dave's situation and will address those shortly.

Best Wishes,

Jim
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Uh, dude? He already did.

OK, I'm beaten by Jeff. Also, please make your own thread for this :)
 
I really wish he would design a protocol for the test. I hope that he can prove the paranormal, because, than something wonderful would have been discovered, however, just like most of you I believe this to be woo. I do not believe that anyone has any paranormal powers or abilities. Well I hope I am wrong.
 
Jim Callahan said:
Ok you have my attention Jeff.
Please offer up the test and I will consider it.

This was a thread I had decided to stay out of but your comment poked at my curiosity and now I am in.

We have been doing tests for the past couple of years and would welcome your input on this.

I see some problems with Dave's situation and will address those shortly.

Best Wishes,

Jim
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Jeff Wagg said:
All you have to do is apply.
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I will even start a seperate thread for you where we can discuss matters concerning your claim, should you decide to make one.
 
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