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Vespa Guy, you (A Very Sly Denial) were banned for pointing out that Dylan Avery lies (or Rowe)?

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I was trying to work out which one of us was AVSD. I had my suspicions, but they were wrong. Good stuff over there, VG. :D


I don't think this deserves an own Thread, but I have to tell you this. I just debated a Truther in a german Forum for the first time. A textbook example of a Truther. Refering to Nonsense like like the "pull it" quote and blaming the jooooos. You think you made a good point, but he is totally stuck to his believes and comes up with more and more stuff, ignoring the things you just said. It is true, the dumber the CT, the more intelligent he thinks he is. This is so frustrating, I wonder how you guys can do this over and over again :D

We just do it to collect NWO bonuses for being called "shills". ;) :rolleyes: Welcome to the forum, Disinfo Agent. :)
 
I don't think this deserves an own Thread, but I have to tell you this. I just debated a Truther in a german Forum for the first time. A textbook example of a Truther. Refering to Nonsense like like the "pull it" quote and blaming the jooooos. You think you made a good point, but he is totally stuck to his believes and comes up with more and more stuff, ignoring the things you just said. It is true, the dumber the CT, the more intelligent he thinks he is. This is so frustrating, I wonder how you guys can do this over and over again :D

Welcome to the forum, Disinfo Agent. :welcome4

It is, indeed, difficult to attempt a legitimate debate with twoofers as they tend to flit from one tinhat talking point to another without ever positing any actual evidence or any actual facts. They simply regurgitate what they've read on tinhat websites, avoid answering legitimate questions, avoid acknowledging actual facts and evidence, and avoid putting forward anything of substance to support their alleged beliefs.

But we do it for the benefit of others who read the forum, those others who may have seen some of the tinhat sites and may have been tempted to buy into the woo but who are smart enough to look for facts and evidence rather than blindly buy into the woo.

Even though it can seem a waste of time trying to explain things calmly and rationally for the hundredth or thousandth time to a dyed-in-the-woo conspiracy fantasist who pays no attention to your rational posts, it is of enormous benefit to others reading because they can see first hand that the conspiracy fantasist is not engaging in debate at all, but merely regurgitating crap from tinhat sites and running away from legitimate discussion or debate.

Another one new to the forum, so apologies if this has been raised before. The term conspiracy theorists worries me. Relativity and gravity are theories. Even some of the more esoteric social science theories have a degree of schlorship, research and rationality about them. Raising the myriad and often contradictory beliefs of those on the LC forum to "theories" give them status they dont deserve and imply they are really debatable - and I haven't seen a proper debate on that forum.

What we have here are religious-like dogmatists, so CDs????

Welcome, lionking. :welcome4
I agree with you on the terminology. I've always disliked the term "conspiracy theorists" because it seemed to convey a sense of legitimacy upon tinhatters that they do not deserve, and I used to call them CTers even though it was not grammatically correct. But from now on, it's "conspiracy fantasists" for me.
 
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Vespa Guy, you (A Very Sly Denial) were banned for pointing out that Dylan Avery lies (or Rowe)?

:newlol :newlol :newlol

I was trying to work out which one of us was AVSD. I had my suspicions, but they were wrong. Good stuff over there, VG. :D

Thank you.

I actually lasted a few months over there. I was always on my best behaviour and withstood plenty of name-calling from the resident lowlifes (Pdoh, KT, etc). Although I engaged in some back & forth with posters there, there was never anything that resembled debate.

And although I never deserved it, I'm quite happy I was banned. I wasted so much time at LC banging my head against the wall, using logic and reason - many times discovering that my internet 'opponent' was merely a child who simply parrots the claims made by the older boys in the schoolyard.
 
Thank you.

I actually lasted a few months over there. I was always on my best behaviour and withstood plenty of name-calling from the resident lowlifes (Pdoh, KT, etc). Although I engaged in some back & forth with posters there, there was never anything that resembled debate.

And although I never deserved it, I'm quite happy I was banned. I wasted so much time at LC banging my head against the wall, using logic and reason - many times discovering that my internet 'opponent' was merely a child who simply parrots the claims made by the older boys in the schoolyard.
I found that 'How Old Are You' thread on the forum to be enlightening.. It made an awful lot more sense when you saw how old a lot of the forumites are. 'highwaymanq' is a regular poster there, and has some pretty wild ideas... He's 13! I believed some absolutely crazy things when I was 13 too, then I hit puberty and started actually thinking. :)
 
I found that 'How Old Are You' thread on the forum to be enlightening.. It made an awful lot more sense when you saw how old a lot of the forumites are. 'highwaymanq' is a regular poster there, and has some pretty wild ideas... He's 13! I believed some absolutely crazy things when I was 13 too, then I hit puberty and started actually thinking. :)

Exactly. I forgot the name of one of the posters I was debating (he was hung up on the 'ISI connection', and resorted to horrible hyperbole (i.e. 'the Pentagon is the most secure building in the world') whenever he attempted to make a point.). When he began bitching about the facist government and losing his freedoms, I asked how old he was. He never answered. And here is why:

Most of the posters over there are children. They bitch about losing their freedom while freely expressing their personal opinion over the internet. They bitch about how the government controls everything, yet they post on a site that was started by 3 kids with no education who have started their own business - a business which directly and deliberately accuses the government of murder. They bitch about taxes while the only money they make is from mowing their neighbors lawn. They bitch about DUI roadblocks, while they pedal their Schwinns to school. They bitch about how horrible things are nowadays with absolutely no real world experience to make any comparisons to.

The LC forum is crawling with children. I'm still looking forward to the LC version of the JREF "expertise" thread (The thread where JREFers posted their education and areas of knowledge). I'd love to see a thread like that at the LC forums, but I won't hold my breath.
 
I'm still looking forward to the LC version of the JREF "expertise" thread (The thread where JREFers posted their education and areas of knowledge). I'd love to see a thread like that at the LC forums, but I won't hold my breath.

That's a great idea. It sounds like a job for...

Oliver!
 
Welcome to the forum, Disinfo Agent. :welcome4

It is, indeed, difficult to attempt a legitimate debate with twoofers as they tend to flit from one tinhat talking point to another without ever positing any actual evidence or any actual facts. They simply regurgitate what they've read on tinhat websites, avoid answering legitimate questions, avoid acknowledging actual facts and evidence, and avoid putting forward anything of substance to support their alleged beliefs.

But we do it for the benefit of others who read the forum, those others who may have seen some of the tinhat sites and may have been tempted to buy into the woo but who are smart enough to look for facts and evidence rather than blindly buy into the woo.

Even though it can seem a waste of time trying to explain things calmly and rationally for the hundredth or thousandth time to a dyed-in-the-woo conspiracy fantasist who pays no attention to your rational posts, it is of enormous benefit to others reading because they can see first hand that the conspiracy fantasist is not engaging in debate at all, but merely regurgitating crap from tinhat sites and running away from legitimate discussion or debate.

Thanks for the welcome. Apparently the "Truther" I debated, was a Troll, just seeking for attention. He was pretty hardcore and moronic, but I thought that was normal, considering the Trutherdebates I have seen before here. But I often thought "That guy can not be serious". He posted his stuff for two weeks (I debated him for one evening), after admitting that he now "had enough food" (well, now he claims that he just wanted to fool me, but I may be stupid, but not THAT stupid). That makes me wonder, how many Truther on this Forum are Trolls who are not serious and just enjoy the attention you pay to them...
 
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The LC forum is crawling with children. I'm still looking forward to the LC version of the JREF "expertise" thread (The thread where JREFers posted their education and areas of knowledge). I'd love to see a thread like that at the LC forums, but I won't hold my breath.


I would be looking forward to an Expertise thread over at pilots for truth. :D
 
That makes me wonder, how many Truther on this Forum are Trolls who are not serious and just enjoy the attention you pay to them...
It's a good question. Unfortunately from reading the Loose Change boards, it appears that the line between satire and 'Trooth' is paper thin. With the things they are proposing, how could you possibly differentiate between them??
 
That's a great idea. It sounds like a job for...

Oliver!


Huh? There was a thread about what they are doing
for their living. I guess i read it yesterday - so it may
be still there.
 
Huh? There was a thread about what they are doing
for their living. I guess i read it yesterday - so it may
be still there.
No silly. They had a thread about their age.

Vespaguy said, "I'm still looking forward to the LC version of the JREF "expertise" thread (The thread where JREFers posted their education and areas of knowledge). I'd love to see a thread like that at the LC forums, but I won't hold my breath."

Your mission, Ollie, if you choose to accept it, is to start one overe there so they can all chime in with their respective areas of expertise.:D
 
No silly. They had a thread about their age.

Vespaguy said, "I'm still looking forward to the LC version of the JREF "expertise" thread (The thread where JREFers posted their education and areas of knowledge). I'd love to see a thread like that at the LC forums, but I won't hold my breath."

Your mission, Ollie, if you choose to accept it, is to start one overe there so they can all chime in with their respective areas of expertise.:D

No no, there was such a thread. I remember it because Killtown
told me he´s a Shepherd - and he repeated it in this thread. But
maybe it was moved or deleted because i can´t find it...

Anyway - I don´t want to Troll over there after being invited
as a respected member.
 
Our old mate 28th Kingdom (you remember, the lying liar who always tells lies) has found a home at LCF and 'look-up' has gotten all excited.....

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I love it how they throw out a piece of absolutely ridiculous 'evidence' like this, and sit back saying 'Ha! Come on skeptics, let's see you debunk THIS!'.

Surely they know that all of the skeptics besides a few have been banned from the forum?
 
Our old mate 28th Kingdom (you remember, the lying liar who always tells lies) has found a home at LCF and 'look-up' has gotten all excited.....
lol

I read about 3 posts and realised they were discussing how the aircraft impact had affected the "CD" in that part of the building.

Hello? if an aircraft hits your building you don't - really - you don't need any form of CD. Aircraft + high speed + building = collapse.

Some artefacts on a video and they think the NWO is going to fall.

I hope they carry on big time - they're enormously entertaining, if you divorce them from the reality of what happened.
 
Somebody should save the whole "Val Mcclatchy phone call" thread over there before it gets deleted.

Val has an easy lawsuit against the guy who illegally taped the call without her consent since PA requires consent of both parties.

And, Dylan has even acknowledged the law but hasn't yanked the thread (yet) which could spell bad news for him too.
 
Somebody should save the whole "Val Mcclatchy phone call" thread over there before it gets deleted.

Val has an easy lawsuit against the guy who illegally taped the call without her consent since PA requires consent of both parties.

And, Dylan has even acknowledged the law but hasn't yanked the thread (yet) which could spell bad news for him too.

keeping tabs and screenshots as it grows. ^_^
wav file saved.

Love pdoh's reply...typical clueless responses ('listen to the way she hesitates..proves she's a liar').. well if someone is harassing me over a photo and about what i saw 5 years ago, I'd be annoyed and would hesitate answering any questions by morons.
 
keeping tabs and screenshots as it grows. ^_^
wav file saved.

Love pdoh's reply...typical clueless responses ('listen to the way she hesitates..proves she's a liar').. well if someone is harassing me over a photo and about what i saw 5 years ago, I'd be annoyed and would hesitate answering any questions by morons.

Perfect.

Who wants to email the whole thing to Val and her lawyer?
 

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