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PC Parts Whaaaat?

A decent motherboard ought to have a heatsink for the M.2 drive. If not, third-party ones are available; I prefer the ones which screw both sides, rather than just stick on.
 
There's also a small chance the NVMe drive might not be recognized OotB by the Win11 install. You might need to download a specific storage driver for that motherboard and copy to the installation media. It's not likely, but I've needed it a couple times even with Win11.
 
TragicMonkey said:
It's called "FireCuda 530R", by Seagate. It wasn't very expensive so if it turns out to suck I can try a different one, or an old-fashioned wooden SSD like the pilgrims used!
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You just knew this was coming.

Beware of the Seagate FireCuda 530R SSD, which is on sale right now.​


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I saw the following article today on IGN where they mention that the Seagate FireCuda 530R 2TB SSD is on sale for $139.99 when it normally costs $229.99 and I thought to myself, "that's a good deal. I might pick one up." And I started doing some research on it.

I Googled "Seagate FireCuda 530R SSD reddit" and found this reddit post and this reddit post where people talk about these drives failing after specific Windows updates.

I looked at their Amazon reviews and searched for "failed" and found several PS5 owners saying that the drive died after just a few months.

So this Amazon sale is highly suspect and basically feels like they're trying to offload this drive on unsuspecting customers. I know every drive manufacturer has fail rates, but this particular model is too high. I would just avoid it.
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The specs on that are good, so performance should be fine. Digging down the links it looks like updating the firmware is advised, but I do that on all my SSDs anyway.

All the new motherboards have two nvme slots these days. I would get something like a redudant SSD on the board or get some other backup strategy in place. I keep my computer backed up to an external SAN.

In reality, the modern SSDs in general are probably just a bit more fragile than the old days of real HDDs. Also, now that you can get so much storage on the one drive, the possibility of a fault probably goes up as well. They have inbuilt fault tolerance but that can only go so far. Unlike a CPU which in theory could keep going indefinitely, SSDs have a definite lifetime due to the technology they use to store data. They can only be used so much before they will slow down and they will get data errors. There is a limit to how long they can keep their data without power.
 
novaphile said:
This is amusing as comparing current hard drives to the original 100Mb drive in my first PC...
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LOL- my first computer with a HDD (as opposed to Kansa City tape drives or floppies- back when they WERE floppy lol) was an XT with a whole 10Mb of hard drive...and a single full height 'floppy' 360k floppy...

The one with the lift up lid... (and an amber screen monitor with a Hercules video card- no way could I afford an CGA, let alone an EGA!!!! that effectively almost doubled the price!!!)

And it came with a ridiculous 512Kb of RAM- considering the first new computer I bought came with a whole 3.5Kb of RAM- I didn't know how anyone could ever use it all...

(looks at the current laptop (quite elderly from 2018) with 24Gb of ram, a 150Mb SSD for the O/S (Bionic Beaver lol), a secondary mechanical 1Tb internal drive, and just over 13Tb of external storage on the NAS- how far we have come...)

(my house is very dark... it has NO windows lol)
 
TragicMonkey said:
I'm going through a de-cluttering process on my entire house, and as I'm also about to build a PC I fear it is time to pull out the Big Cardboard Box of Ancient Tech. You know the one. Cords for long-lost devices. Floppy disks for installing Windows ME. Flash drives that hold 20 KB because that was a lot back then.

It shouldn't be so bad because I did go through it about four years ago....but it's still going to be awful. Last time I needed a SATA cable I knew I probably had one in there but it was just less horrible to go to the store and buy a new one.
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I've still got a set of 5 1/4 floppies for windows version 1 here somewhere- I doubt they still work but I am reluctant to throw them out just because they were the very first O/S I ever bought that wasn't already built in to the system itself lol
 
a_unique_person said:
You just knew this was coming.



The specs on that are good, so performance should be fine. Digging down the links it looks like updating the firmware is advised, but I do that on all my SSDs anyway.

All the new motherboards have two nvme slots these days. I would get something like a redudant SSD on the board or get some other backup strategy in place. I keep my computer backed up to an external SAN.

In reality, the modern SSDs in general are probably just a bit more fragile than the old days of real HDDs. Also, now that you can get so much storage on the one drive, the possibility of a fault probably goes up as well. They have inbuilt fault tolerance but that can only go so far. Unlike a CPU which in theory could keep going indefinitely, SSDs have a definite lifetime due to the technology they use to store data. They can only be used so much before they will slow down and they will get data errors. There is a limit to how long they can keep their data without power.
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A bit OT but I did this for my earbuds recently, new options and improvements in quality m


malbui said:
Clearly you never heard me, late at night in my basement, daisy-chaining drives together.

This is probably a good thing.
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Look, what you get up to in basement at night, especially if it involves "sexy" is your business. Just remember RACK.
 
a_unique_person said:
You just knew this was coming.



The specs on that are good, so performance should be fine. Digging down the links it looks like updating the firmware is advised, but I do that on all my SSDs anyway.

All the new motherboards have two nvme slots these days. I would get something like a redudant SSD on the board or get some other backup strategy in place. I keep my computer backed up to an external SAN.

In reality, the modern SSDs in general are probably just a bit more fragile than the old days of real HDDs. Also, now that you can get so much storage on the one drive, the possibility of a fault probably goes up as well. They have inbuilt fault tolerance but that can only go so far. Unlike a CPU which in theory could keep going indefinitely, SSDs have a definite lifetime due to the technology they use to store data. They can only be used so much before they will slow down and they will get data errors. There is a limit to how long they can keep their data without power.
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Heh. I think I'll get a traditional SSD for the O/S after all. That's what I have now and I've had no complaints about speed, my current computer goes from completely off to up-and-running in about thirty seconds on Windows 10. I'll still put the FireCuda in there just to see how it does, but I won't store anything precious on it.
 
Dabop said:
I've still got a set of 5 1/4 floppies for windows version 1 here somewhere- I doubt they still work but I am reluctant to throw them out just because they were the very first O/S I ever bought that wasn't already built in to the system itself lol
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I am sure you could recoup your original investment well by selling them on eBay. I know, it's kind of fun to keep that vintage stuff around, though.
 
TragicMonkey said:
Heh. I think I'll get a traditional SSD for the O/S after all. That's what I have now and I've had no complaints about speed, my current computer goes from completely off to up-and-running in about thirty seconds on Windows 10. I'll still put the FireCuda in there just to see how it does, but I won't store anything precious on it.
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I opened up an old style SSD once just to see what was in it. They are now 99% empty space and just have the same chips the NVME chips have in them.
 
Okay, so what are you telling me? Don't use the NVMe I got, but don't use an old style SSD either? Do you have a recommendation or are you just trying to psych me out?
 
It's all a bit of a game


People complaining about sn850x and recommending a Firecuda. ;)

Intel is going through hell and losing billions with its latest CPUs. It turns out they had bugs in the CPU voltage/temperature/clock speed code that literally burnt out components. They've finally fixed it but too late for a lot of customers.

I assume the Firecuda is now more mature and latest firmware fixes will be ok. I just back stuff up now. Use a second drive for mirroring or backups.

I have a friend who bought a SanDisk ssd drive that has been in the click bait. Reputable brand but sure enough, it went into a failsafe read only mode after only a couple of months.
 
TragicMonkey said:
Okay, so what are you telling me? Don't use the NVMe I got, but don't use an old style SSD either? Do you have a recommendation or are you just trying to psych me out?
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Just use the NVMe, unless it's a no-name brand even the 'slow' ones will be at least as fast as your old SSD.
Follow the instructions in the manual for fitting and if there's a thermal pad included don't forget to peel the plastic
 
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