Hillary Clinton says Tulsi Gabbard is a 'Russian asset'

rockysmith76 said:
Only if you believe the MSM, so sorry that you are stuck in that confined little space.
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Don't believe CBS or NBC or the NY Times.

No, we should believe only the ravjngs of conspiracy theory rags like Breitbart and Infowars.

Sheesh.
 
I wonder if Dems are recruiting a far-right hater to split the pro-Trump vote. I care less about one side's dirty tricks if both sides have the dirty-tricks playbook. If the Dems are trying to run an honorable campaign there is a serious imbalance. Otherwise, meh.
 
Minoosh said:
I wonder if Dems are recruiting a far-right hater to split the pro-Trump vote. I care less about one side's dirty tricks if both sides have the dirty-tricks playbook. If the Dems are trying to run an honorable campaign there is a serious imbalance. Otherwise, meh.
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The Democratic Party is probably not going to engage in any kind of cloak and dagger political warfare. But one suggestion in the back of my dark mind is showing up to Trump rallies with neo-Nazi and or skinhead insignia. Keep it subdued; don't bring big flags and or KKK hoods or anything of the sort. Be natural about it.
 
acbytesla said:
Don't believe CBS or NBC or the NY Times.

No, we should believe only the ravjngs of conspiracy theory rags like Breitbart and Infowars.

Sheesh.
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Or you can even read the report yourself. It’s not like its buried in a Star Chamber safe box.
 
IsThisTheLife said:
The ISF subgeniuses, as is is typical of the conformist masses everywhere, like to think that these "connections" (guilt-by-association smears) they're buying into is "nuanced thinking", LoL.
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That's exactly what a Russianbot would say to add more fuel to this tempest in a teapot (probably).
 
Goddammit I miss the days when Russian meddling in American politics was done through hot high-end prostitute spies.
 
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Minoosh said:
I wonder if Dems are recruiting a far-right hater to split the pro-Trump vote. I care less about one side's dirty tricks if both sides have the dirty-tricks playbook. If the Dems are trying to run an honorable campaign there is a serious imbalance. Otherwise, meh.
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In theory, Joe Walsh would be perfect here - and while I wouldn't actually like him on anything, either him or Romney would be preferable to the dimwitted white supremacist traitor the GOP is currently rallying behind.

(I'll take a moment here to note that my own preferred candidate, Bill Weld, is a person who actually and loudly believes in equal rights even for transgendered people, and thus is a particularly poor spoiler for anyone who is currently considering voting for Toupee Fiasco)

Unfortunately, it sounds like most of the dems that are nervous about their own candidates are instead wasting their time on either people who have clearly said no (eg. Clinton, Eric Holder, Michelle Obama), or clowns threatening a third party run against Warren to protect billionaires (Michael Bloomberg).
 
Just read up on Gabbard's foreign policy,and , although I don't think she is a knowing Russian asset, she sure as hell seems to want to do what would make Putin happy.
I find her buddying up with Assad to be really troubling.
That is the dark side of the peace movement: They want peace at any price, and if that means sanctioning a viscouse dictator and looking the other way at mass murder so be it.
That's the problem with pacifism:in the end, you end up giving power to the worst people in the world.
And that Gabbard's approach to foreign policy seems to be not much different then Trump's should give people a real caution about her.
 
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Belz... said:
Oh, maybe you didn't hear: all of those e-mail and benghazi investigations turned up negative, and Clinton was cleared.

Sorry about that.
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You seem not to understand the rule of expediency in politics, or you pretend not to when it suits (disingenuousness). But if you really don't get it, here's a facile analogy for you; it's like a game of Jenga - if certain pieces were to be pulled, which is to say, certain actors taken down (indicted and convicted), they could bring entire edifice down with them. Even Trump expediently back-pedaled on the explicit declarations he made on several occasions in '15/'16, publicly and to her face, that HRC belonged in jail .
 
acbytesla said:
No, I'm just sick of page after page after page arguing about a word. How long must we beat this dead horse?
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I've completely left or taken hiatus from several threads due to this kind of crap. When I come back to check, if it's still going on, I bow out again. It's boring, unproductive, and silly.
 
IsThisTheLife said:
You seem not to understand the rule of expediency in politics, or you pretend not to when it suits (disingenuousness). But if you really don't get it, here's a facile analogy for you; it's like a game of Jenga - if certain pieces were to be pulled, which is to say, certain actors taken down (indicted and convicted), they could bring entire edifice down with them. Even Trump expediently back-pedaled on the explicit declarations he made on several occasions in '15/'16, publicly and to her face, that HRC belonged in jail .
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That's delicious word salad, but what does it mean, and how does it address what I said?
 
Stacyhs said:
I've completely left or taken hiatus from several threads due to this kind of crap. When I come back to check, if it's still going on, I bow out again. It's boring, unproductive, and silly.
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I agree. With a few exceptions, the forum is really no longer worth bothering with. Bickering has replaced discussion. In thread after thread, it's not about the events it's about the people posting. Their reaction to one another. Sad! ;)
 
IsThisTheLife said:
You seem not to understand the rule of expediency in politics, or you pretend not to when it suits (disingenuousness). But if you really don't get it, here's a facile analogy for you; it's like a game of Jenga - if certain pieces were to be pulled, which is to say, certain actors taken down (indicted and convicted), they could bring entire edifice down with them. Even Trump expediently back-pedaled on the explicit declarations he made on several occasions in '15/'16, publicly and to her face, that HRC belonged in jail .
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Cite? Even if true, the word didn't get out to the cult.

(And even if true, he continues to Banana Dictate other political opponents non-stop. Impeach Romney, shoot the whistle-blower, etc.)
 
newyorkguy said:
I agree. With a few exceptions, the forum is really no longer worth bothering with. Bickering has replaced discussion. In thread after thread, it's not about the events it's about the people posting. Their reaction to one another. Sad! ;)
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There are a few threads with a few pages of actually interesting conversation that have made me think a bit. Usually buried in 20 pages of bickering.
 
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